Judge issues radioactive 'pr0n downloader' alert
Jim Carter
It's a shame the judge didn't say #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:30 GMT

"Up and atom!" to the police...
Squits
Shoot on sight #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:30 GMT
If those pesky Al-Qaeda blokes get their filthy hooks into him, they just have to strap a bomb on him and send him into parliament, a double dirty bomb, what with the radiation and all the blood, shit and piss flying everywhere.
Shoot him anyway, damn paedos want grinding into dust under a massive boot.
Adam Foxton
"And don't make him angry... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:30 GMT

... You wouldn't like him when he's angry."
Paul
He'll be easy to track then..... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:31 GMT

.... Just look for the green glowing bloke with the bubbling pint of guiness with a mildly roasted child on his lap.
Mines the one with the geiger counter in the pocket.
nobby
poor easily deluded special branch officer #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:53 GMT
i assume he'll be sacked.
or promoted
Anonymous Coward
And why don't we have... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:53 GMT
Why don't we have geiger counters at our ports anyway? Unlike X-rays and metal detectors they're almost completely passive and very very cheap -- anyone with half a brain can knock one together on a kitchen table.
"Excuse me sir, but you appear to be radioactive."
Anonymous Coward
I can't decide between... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:53 GMT
Turn the lights off and he's the one that glows in the dark.
Or
Nuke 'em till they glow and then shoot 'em in the dark.
Cameron Colley
OMG! Nooooooooooo! #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:53 GMT
A _radioactive_ roboplegic wrongcock!
David Neil
All joking aside #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:53 GMT

At least the kids will know if he's hiding under the bed.
I know, I'm going to a bad place....
Caff
geiger counter #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:54 GMT
So issues the Garda with geiger counters and we'll find him pretty quick?
Anonymous Coward
How to stop an exploding man #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:16 GMT

Dammit Sylar, we need you..
Goatan
Running man anyone #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:16 GMT

I think we should send out the stalkers. My money is on Buzz Saw making the first kill
Paris because she 'glows' in the dark too
Ed Blackshaw
@Geiger Counter comments #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:16 GMT
Geiger-Muller tubes work by detecting charged particles directly. Since the average radioactive particle will only travel a few centimetres through air, they would be pretty much useless unless you go around waving one over every part of a person's anatomy. Add that to the fact that the radioactive iodine used to treat a thyroid condition (not an uncommon treatment) will be concentrated in a persons thyroid gland, which is in their neck beneath skin and surface musculature, which would tend to absorb the beta particles pretty effectively.
Anonymous Coward
Radioactive super powers? #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:16 GMT
Anonymous Coward
radiation scare stories again #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:17 GMT
Anything to do with radiation automatically becomes a scare oout of proportion to the real threat.
He will presumabely be treated with I131 this has a half life from memory of about 8 days and is a gamma and beta emitter. The gamma rays havea fairly high energy (for nuclea rmedicine anyway) of around 360 keV so will easily penetrate his body.
Whatever he has ingested has already decayed by a factor of 8. In addition some material will have been excreted. The beta radiation will not penetrate his body leaving the gamma exposure to police or the public. Studies of the radiation exposure to the family members and pets! of therapy patients show that doses recived over two weeks are an order of magnitude below safety limits.
Given that the material will have decayed by a factor of 8 and the possible exposure time is going to be no more than a few hours the 'threat' already well within safety limits is going to be roughly one thousandth of an already insignificant hazard. Actually this is obvious, people are routinely treated in this way as out patients and it is considered quite normal and safe.
The story does contribute to the general scare mongering and paranoid fantasy about anything radioactive, dirty bombs etc.
Anonymous Coward
Nuclear powered Pedo!!! #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

the daily mail will have a field day!
amanfromMars
Wow ..... Rogue State Toxic Waste #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

"So issues the Garda with geiger counters and we'll find him pretty quick?" .... By Caff Posted Friday 27th February 2009 14:48 GMT
Caff,
You don't know the Garda, very well, do you? [And that's a joke, Paddy, as you know we are masters at laughing at ourselves. And bloody good at rugby too. :-)]
Anonymous Coward
Another indication the establishment neither knows ... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

...nor cares about science.
Joe K
Huh? #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

A radioactive peado on the run and out to rape/irradiate the nations children?
Isn't that like the Daily Mail's wet dream?
Anonymous Coward
Once again - read the story #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

He is *accused* of having dangerously pornographic pictures.
It scares the hell out of me that there are so many people ready to cry hang 'em and flog 'em before any evidence has even been heard, just because someone has been accused. He may be a paedo, but he may not...
Does no one care about justice any more?
Paris because she can be dangerously pornographic
Stuart
glowng overlord #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

We must band together to fight these irish iradiated overlords, oh for the teachings of tom cruis.
raving angry loony
officially quotable #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:04 GMT

I guess this is the kind of story one should expect from "...a website..." that's sometimes "...a reliable news breaker..." or even "...an ever-excellent technology site..." but is really just "...a bunch of aggro loner twats..." pretending to be "...a respected technology news website..." while in reality engaging in "...unethical..." "...yellow..." pseudo-journalism. This "...internet scandal-sheet..." is less informative about I.T. than a "...comically angry..." "...online lesbian magazine...". I guess they ran short of real news, and had to fall back to being "...an ad-banner trolling site who will publish any rubbish if it'll get clicks...". This story is probably "...best ignored...", it being Friday after all.
Yeah, the one with the extra ellipses in the pocket, ta.
Oliver Mayes
Captain Scarlet #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:17 GMT

I'm sure I remember an old episode of Captain Scarlet where Captain Black was accidentally irradiated and they used a special 'directional' geiger counter to track him. Surely someone somewhere must have invented one of these by now that we can use to find the guy.
John Savard
Summary #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:19 GMT
He may only be accused of a child pornography offence, but clearly he has violated his bail conditions. Perhaps by announcing that he is radioactive, it is hoped that he will turn himself in, rather than being Tasered by police who wouln't want to spend too long physically restraining him.
Anonymous Coward
well #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:39 GMT
"five counts of making indecent images of children"
Well at least at the moment that probably means the guy in someway took photos of naked kids (although he could just be an artist who makes pictures of cherubs)
But soon "five counts of making indecent images of children" will just mean he drew 5 manga loli on a piece of paper.
Mycho
@Science #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:39 GMT
Depends on the kind of radiotherapy. Toward the end of his life John Diamond had the occasional radioactive implant as doctors got ever more desperate to stop him dying.
Dave
@Ed Blackshaw #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

All of which is very interesting, but does rather contradict the assertion of the Doctor and the Judge, that this man is dangerously radio-active, doesn't it?
<- Glowing man?
Maty
'making indecent pics' #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT
As I understand the law, this means that you simply have to download the .jpg and 'make' the pic on your screen with the comp. It goes back to the time when it was legal to possess some kinds of porn, but not to manufacture the stuff, so some clever prosecutor persuaded a judge that the 'download file - create image' was making the picture.
Anyway, I seem to recall that here in Canada Manga lolis are illegal. (Well, some anyway)
Anonymous Coward
@AC 1632 #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

"Making images" is a legal term. He most likely viewed them (if indeed he did) online and they were saved in his cache - thus "making" them. If he had taken the pictures it would more liley be child abuse.
Paul
@well #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

Nope, "making" usually means "downloading". because when you download something you "make" a copy. I wish I was joking, but I'm not.
Anonymous Coward
Special Branch #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

'...he convinced a Special Branch officer...'
So that's special as in 'Special Needs'
Anonymous Coward
@ well #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT
>"five counts of making indecent images of children"
Well at least at the moment that probably means the guy in someway took photos of naked kids<
Couldn't be further from the truth. But the law was deliberately phrased to suggest what you surmise. Crafty, ain't it?
Anonymous Coward
Yes! Irradiate all paedos NAO! #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT
...as I imagine it will say all over The Sun's Have Your Say, Morons pages tomorrow
F.
a few links on the topic #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

Pet owner gets stopped and searched for dirty bombs because routine nuclear surveillance detected the radiation treatment in his cat. Inside a car. Going by at 70 miles per hour. - http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004300343_danny23.html
‘Hot’ patients setting off dirty-bomb alarms - Surprise side effect of radioactive medical therapies: being strip-searched - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16869630/
Medical Tests Can Trigger Airport Radiation Alarms - http://sexualhealth.e-healthsource.com/index.php?p=news1&id=526971
Bruce Schneier on radiation detectors in ports - http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/03/radiation_detec_1.html
Anonymous Coward
Hmm #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

"...he convinced a Special Branch officer the terms of his bail had been altered..."
Getting radiated seems to give you Jedi mind control powers.
Anonymous John
Reminds me of the radioactive cat litter story. #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

http://www.snopes.com/critters/gnus/litter.asp
Mine's the lead-lined one.
Tea-800
@John Savard #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

Alternatively, bombard him with more radiation, drop him into water and rig him to the national grid?
Elron Hubward
I wonder.... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

..if the Judge instead of the more usual slap on the wrist, ten minutes community service and enforced subscription to the Grauniad, will hand down two consecutive half-life sentances.
Flame, cos it's as close as I can get to a radiation warning icon.
Anonymous Coward
Scared now... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:20 GMT

Several El Reg regulars have commented recently that amanfromMars has been posting comments that border on the understandable.
And now, today, we have a comment that appears to me to be perfectly lucid..
Is the depot finally working or am I slowly sinking too .........
James O'Brien
@Scared now... #
Posted Friday 27th February 2009 23:40 GMT

Hell I've been saying that for at least 3 months now. Hell what has me more worried is it took this long for people to say anything. Starting to wonder if we were so conditioned by his normal posts that we just randomly added in nonsensical phrases into a post of his liberally sprinkled with XXXXXX and stuff in there from time to time. Maybe that alien mind control of his is starting to get to us...
/mines the one with the foil hat next to it. Thanks
RotaCyclic
@Ed Blackshaw, detection of radiation by GM tubes #
Posted Saturday 28th February 2009 00:37 GMT
"Geiger-Muller tubes work by detecting charged particles directly. Since the average radioactive particle will only travel a few centimetres through air, they would be pretty much useless unless you go around waving one over every part of a person's anatomy"
GM tubes will also detect gamma rays. If a gamma ray photo strikes a particle of air within the tube (and is absorbed), the molecule of gas become ionised.
So GM tubes will also detect gamma radiation.
However, the point about gamma radiation is that it is not as strongly isonising as alpha radiation. Alpha radiation are charged particles. Gamma radiation is not charged.
RotaCyclic
Don't let him pee on you #
Posted Saturday 28th February 2009 00:37 GMT
If as someone else has suggested the primary emitters of radiation with the radioisotope are gamma rays and beta radiation, the beta particles ( high energy electrons) will not penetrate the skin, however the gamma will, but that's probably very low level.
The biggest risk is...if you catch the criminal and he decides to take a leak over you.
Some of the radioactive material may find its way into the uninary system.
Simon Neill
Dangerously radioactive? #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 10:36 GMT
"Geiger-Muller tubes work by detecting charged particles directly. Since the average radioactive particle will only travel a few centimetres through air, they would be pretty much useless unless you go around waving one over every part of a person's anatomy. Add that to the fact that the radioactive iodine used to treat a thyroid condition (not an uncommon treatment) will be concentrated in a persons thyroid gland, which is in their neck beneath skin and surface musculature, which would tend to absorb the beta particles pretty effectively."
Indeed. Surely if he was radioactive enough to be a danger to others he would be....well...dead, dead dead and more dead to the power dead. So that raises the question, if he IS radioactive enough to be dangerous he should be easily detectable.
Andy Barber
Risk to others #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 10:36 GMT

Both my late son & extant wife had radiotherapy (i.e. radioactive treatment,) to their cancers. I was never given a health warning that they were radioactive. Simply because the amount of radiation they emitted would have been too tiny to worry about. The Beak saw the words "radioactive treatment" & threw a wobbly!
Steve Kay
Radioactive nonce? #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 10:36 GMT
Daily Mail HERE WE COME :D
CTG
Radioactive man #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 10:36 GMT

I was working on a client site with a colleague a couple of years ago. She was pregnant at the time. She has always been on the, erm, larger side, and now with the baby was... well, you get the picture. One of the client's techies had just had this iodine therapy, and he was told that he was radioactive enough that he had to stay away from people who might be sensitive to radiation. So he comes into our room, looks at the two of us and says, "There aren't any children or pregnant women in here, are there?"... My colleague was not amused.
theotherone
what will they think of next #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 10:36 GMT

radioactive pedophiles ..... what will they think of next .....?
dreadful scathe
oh dear #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 13:13 GMT

lot of Daily Mail "outraged from London" types in here. He was to go to court because 5 pictures he had "may" be illegal to possess ? Why does this stuff even make it to court ? Is this value for money for the taxpayer ?
Nexox Enigma
Riiiiight, dangerous... #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 20:24 GMT
I tend to work with 'dangerous' levels of radiation most days. It takes a fair amount of radiation to get a Geiger counter to start ticking above background levels - say like 10 feet from a 1.6 Curie CS 137 source in a ~33kg depleted uranium shield. And you really have to be paying attention to see that low level.
For someone treated with such extremely low levels of radiation, with such a short halflife, you'd probably be able to stick the Geiger-Muller tube probe down their throat and not see anything out of the orginary. You would likely need a Scintillation Detector, which is not quite as cheap or easy to make as a geiger counter. And you'd have to be pretty close too. The nice thing is that if you did it right, it could do a spectroscopic breakdown and tell you just what radioisotopes it found. And that would probably come out on the indecent side of $100k.
JT2008
@AC #
Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 20:24 GMT
"He is *accused* of having dangerously pornographic pictures."
And then he ran.
Nothing says "I did it!" "Arrest me!" like running.