Technically they're still trolls #
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 00:36 GMT
You don't have to file a suit to be a troll. If everyone pays up, why would you use that club?
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 00:36 GMT
You don't have to file a suit to be a troll. If everyone pays up, why would you use that club?
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 01:14 GMT
Although I know it is a strange concept, but there was a time when patents were issued for real inovation and inventions. There still are some people and companies who make use and license real patents. It is possible this is a case . Reg has the right attitude wait and watch.
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 02:27 GMT
Patent troll is some t hat buys up patents , never uses them and waits till a company trys to sell s product close to the patents they own.
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 02:27 GMT
Funny how a person can see what they expect rather than what's printed. I read IV's name as "Intellectual Vultures", and momentarily marveled at the truth in labeling.
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 02:27 GMT
I have to assume that Austin's tongue was very firmly planted in his cheek...
The definition of a patent troll is an entity that neither invents nor makes products but instead acquires patents and uses them to extort money from legitimate businesses by suing or threatening to sue. Since this fits IV's core business model to a T, what reason is there not to join with manufacturers like HP in calling IV "just a very large patent troll"?
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 05:57 GMT
It is sometimes very difficult to tell the difference between the two, but generally:
1) If the company waits for someone to bring out a product then "suddenly discovers" that said product infringes on their patent, they're Troll.
2) If the company announces their patents and "rents" them out to whoever wants to use them, then odds are they're just a normal patent company.
Remember: Patent-ownership does not immediately make you a Troll; it's how you use those patents that's important. Patent Trolls use their like a club (hence the allusion).
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 10:03 GMT
Would you trust someone named Nathan Myhrvold?
A trollish name if I ever saw one... and he's a former MSoftie, so well attuned to the ways of evil.
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 10:03 GMT
"Remember: Patent-ownership does not immediately make you a Troll; it's how you use those patents that's important. " .... By Neoc Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 03:57 GMT
Neoc,
In this particular case, the art is in finding someone able to use the patents in their portfolio? Until then, is it a lemon and a convenient laundry for deposits for fronting highly speculative and lucrative future venture projects ...... which have Nowadays MetaDataBaseMorphed into Virtual Programs and ZerodDay Trades.
Posted Tuesday 3rd February 2009 16:00 GMT
Why would Intel or AMD NOT have snapped up this company for what amounts to executive lunch money? Just to get the patents and ideas in their fold with their other processor IP. Was someone asleep at the switch? They aren't making truckloads or money right now, I know; but still, this was too good to pass up if you're looking to grow your market.
Somebody had a bad case of the stupids.
Posted Wednesday 4th February 2009 00:26 GMT
If they're licensing patents or using them for in-house projects, that's a legitimate use of the patent system. If their business model is entirely comprised of licensing patents at extortionate rates /after/ suing for infringement, they're a troll. It's not entirely clear what they're doing with IP yet, but since we haven't heard of lawsuits, they're probably not trolls.