Wrong kind of winter brings England to a halt
Anonymous Coward
What's the point #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 11:37 GMT

of those f*cking 4X4s if people don't use them in adverse weather conditions? Isn't that the bloody point?!?
"Oh, I don't want to ruin my shiny alloys or my leather interior!" Muppets!
Lightweights the lot of 'em!!
Anonymous Coward
Mean while... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 11:37 GMT

Knowlegeable Land-Rover drivers drove carefully and assisted lesser mortals along the way.
Huw Davies
Nottingham CCTV #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

Best photo I've ever seen of Slab Square.
Yorkshirepudding
Bah! #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

a bit of snow and the whole south grinds to a halt you bunch of softies! now excuse me while i go do hanbrake turns in our car park while security are busy gritting the paths
Neil Alexander
Made my day #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

I've not laughed so much at an article in a long time.
Anonymous Coward
Amazing #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

Come on - you spend £50k on a Range Rover or BMW X5, you're not a farmer and can't be expected to know what that "low ratio" lever is all about - you never have used it before. In fact, if you do think you know what you're doing, as the article says, you'll end up causing more problems.
Train companies. Highways agency. Snow we knew was coming several days in advance. FAIL.
Anonymous Coward
Nottingham North?? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT
Last time I checked Nottingham was in the south of England along with Mancester. If you Londers would like to insist that anywhere above the M6 is North why don't you build a moat and be done with it.
Way I see it your not a Northerner until there are parts of Scotland further south than your location.
Luke McCarthy
Same problem #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT
I was greeted with exactly the same error message when I visited wymetro.com this morning.
Anonymous Coward
I seem #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT
I seem to remember someone going on about how there wasn't as much snow as there was 25 years ago... But I seem to remember this snow thing happening every 3 or so years, infact I remeber sitting on a Virgin train 2 minutes out of Watford Junction for 3 hours 6 years ago...
Jan
Ahhhh, snow... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

perfect hunting ground for the Subaru faction...
Go, defenitly GO!
Prag Fest
Excuse me but.... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

I got to the office at 7 on the dot in my 4x4 thank you very much, unlike most of my collegues who didnt fancy it one bit. And besides, I could drive about in this all day, it's all the c**ts in Corsa's wheel spinning to oblivion on every slight inclne that cause the problems. So there.
Bill Cumming
Just seen some 4x4s... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

3 of them stuck at the bottom of a hill waiting for tow-trucks :) lol!! Seen a couple of mini's flying round the streets (due to lack of grip and lack of driver brains!!) A+E will be busy today!!
Sir Runcible Spoon
Motorbikes #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

saw four of them on the way into London this morning. Hard Core ! (read - fucking idiots!)
I nearly died half a dozen times myself just so I could get my laptop and leg-it back home to work in the warm - it was dicey enough in a car, let alone a bloody bike!
Flames - just enough to warm your toes
Warren
CLINT! #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT

Obviously the speller has left the offensiveness up to the reader to decide.
Anonymous Coward
What a Clint #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:19 GMT
unless you air brushed it.
Just in time for the strikes, you can see who's side God is on.
Now the strikes have gone all bikini black and nuclear, they have three options, come out in sympathy or have a snow day!
And for anyone who who wishes to correct the three to a two, I say to you there are 10 types of people in the world, those who know discrete mathematics and those who don't.
John Ozimek
The Good, the Bad, the Ugly #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:21 GMT

Sorry, but...why is a reference to the esteemed Mr Eastwood, star of many a smash spaghetti western (not to mention the "Dirty Harry" franchise) now deemed nsfw.
Its political correctness gone mad, I tell you.
Paris - because she sometimes has difficulty spelling "Clint"
Tom
London != Everywhere #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:21 GMT
Apparently the country has come to a complete standstill because London has. A light dusting of snow gave my street a nice Christmasy feel. Snow was a bit heavier over the border in Carmarthenshire with a few schools shut - but that was mainly because the bus companies stopped the school buses and the schools that were shut sovered a large rural area. All people need is just a little common sense - but there in lies the problem.
Caoilte
trains cancelled today #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:21 GMT
due to lack of snow. I confidently expect them to be cancelled tomorrow due to "lack of snow".
Sarah Bee
Re: Nottingham North?? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:21 GMT

Tsk. Every Londer knows that anywhere north of London is north.
I think London should break away from the rest of the UK and become its own nation. Then you'd be sorry. Buahaha!
Dan
I hate those #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT
Fucking Fairies in their fancy 4x4s refusing to drive them properly and blocking our roads
Mark
No need for 4x4 #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT
Winter tyres, use a higher gear lower speed (torque limitations are overwhelmed by the lack of traction. using a low gear gives you torque you can't use, a higher gear you HAVE to be gentle with).
Farmers get around all day in knackered old ford cortinas and vauxhalls. No 4x4 (they're too expensive).
Anonymous Coward
Wait... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT

is that all the snow it takes to bring London to a grinding halt? Christ, you bunch of southern pansies. You can still make out the pavement! You can actually see tarmac!
You should only be complaining when it's measured in inches(or feet) rather than mm (or Angstroms).
Mark
re: I seem #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT

And those people were talking about four feet of snow, not half a foot.
Now, which is more snow: four feet deep snow or six inches of snow?
Lionel Baden
MWAAAHHAAAHHAAAA` #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT

My 2CV is owning the Roads !!!!!
So good to be driving past people stuck in their flash crappy plastic cars !!!!
Mines the one with the starting handle in it
Bruno Girin
Good journey in the office #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT

It's not all bad actually. I managed to make it into the office reasonnably well: I waited 15 minutes for an elusive First Capital Connect service before being told it would be another 15 minutes before we saw the shadow of a train. So I decided it would be quicker to use the Northern line and discovered that because most people had decided to stay at home, the tube was actually working fine and was even quite pleasant as it was much less crowded than normal.
The TFL's journey planner was slow but working this morning too. Now, of course, the information it provided for services such as FCC (see above) was completely unreliable as FCC forgot to tell TFL they had severe delays and cancellation. Not that it significantly changes the quality of service of course.
Anonymous Coward
@Sarah Bee #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:40 GMT

"London should break away from the rest of the UK and become its own nation. Then you'd be sorry. Buahaha! "
No, we wouldn't. Mwahahaha!
Andrew Newstead
North-South devide! #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT
I was once told that the North started at the Trent, the south bank was the home to the "suth'n poofters" and the north bank was home to the "Northuners".
Go figure...
doody
Re: Nottingham North?? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT
Simple rule of thumb.
If bath, path, grass etc rhyme with scar then you're a southerner.
Otherwise - a brief "a" sound in the middle and you're a northerner.
Nottingham is nothern.
Nigel
London #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT

I'd agree with Sarah. The UK would be about 10% down on CLINTS if London went it alone! Snarl up's ain't caused by the snow, they're caused by suvvern softies who ain't got a ruddy clue how to drive in it!
Nigel
Evil Auditor
Tube? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT
"would have found barely any tubes running"
The Tube, by definition, runs underground. Why the heck are they affected by snow?! Or is it just the usual outages...
Lucky me not being near there anyway
EA
Norman Andrews
Essential Journeys #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT

We are being advised not to attempt to travel 'unless our journey is essential'.
Trouble is, leave that judgement up to a lot of London commuters, and they'll get it utterly and pathetically wrong.
I'd like to see them advise people not to travel whether they think their journey is essential or not.
Where's the Nanny State when you need it? Too busy sniffing around in overfilled dustbins.
Andrew Moore
Shirley... #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT
The word should be "bollocks".
Frank Bough
The North #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT

I've always considered Cambridge to be the most northerly part of the South and, yes, I was just fine in my Subaru Legacy thank you very much.
Sarah Bee
Re: Tube? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:42 GMT

Most tube lines run outside at some point. That's why.
I am so very weary of all the whinging and it's only lunchtime.
Sadie
Rail is better then Road for info #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT

Well techinally Nottingham is North of the Trent....
Anyway, at least the rail companies did get information up eventually. There is no information on the bus service outside London...
Anonymous Coward
4x for what? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT

This morning I saw a driver of a Porsche Cayenne deciding that two inches of pristine snowfall was impassable, doing a several point turn and retreating. This was in Paddington St, W1. That's the first left heading down Baker Street after the station. Numpty on so many levels.
Anonymous Coward
Guildford #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT

"cut-off communities such as Guildford" - you make it sound like a 10 house hamlet with a pub; Its verging on a city!!
Gerhardt
Maybe it's because I'm a Northerner #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT

With a higher rate of spending per head than even Scotland, we'd do well to get rid of those money-spending, moaningly malcontent metropolitans.
Anonymous Coward
re: low ratio on BMW X5 #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT

I am not sure the X5 has low ratio gearbox - however driven correctly then the Xdrive (4 wheel drive system), traction control and stability programmes it will be more than a match for the weather - same system certainly got me in today without hassle :-)
but lets face it - those people who don't allow enough braking distances in the wet and and don't adjust their speed (downwards when required) to merge in/keep flowing at junctions etc. - i.e. unable to think more than 5 mtrs down the road aren't going to be able to cope whatever the car (and just as likely to be in an Audi, Ford, Toyota etc as a BMW) in this weather
Anonymous Coward
Wrong kind of snow on the rails again #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:55 GMT
ho hum.
Britain is so twentieth century.
Ponder Stebbins
Binary #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:56 GMT

@AC 12:00 GMT
Seems that there are only 10 types of people that understand binary numbers as well....
Anonymous Coward
Re: Tube? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:56 GMT

Contrary to your research notes, Evil Auditor, the vast majority of the London Underground is actually OVERGROUND. So are the depots. And how were the staff to get to work?
Anonymous Coward
Short memories #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 12:56 GMT

I'll not resort to the typical "Southern pansies" comments I'm sure will have been posted by now, but will instead remind Londoners that historically, they've had much worse weather in the past, and done just fine.
There were more tube and bus services running during the Blitz than during this "light sprinkling".
I mean, FFS. Southern nancies for teh wi....I mean EPIC FAIL.
Mike Crawshaw
Essential Journeys #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT

<enters ruddy-faced and glowing>
I love how the police, travel companies etc say "only travel if your journey is essential". I keep trying to convince my bosses that my coming to work isn't actually essential, but they disagree, dammit.
And if London split from the rest of UK, they'd get to keep all the politicians, as well as the vast majority of consultants, financiers, lobby groups, homeopaths, hairdressers, middle management and telephone sanitisers, which would be just perfect for the rest of us!
<goes to make snow angels>
Luther Blissett
Ahhh, such heart-warming irony from Team Register #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT
To describe it as a Siberian winter. Surely the PC thing demands that this be called it the New Ice Age.
[Note for pedants: this is different from the Next Ice Age]
Mike Richards
Never a truer word spoken #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT
thetrainline.com
'Failed to connect'
Stephen
London breakaway? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT

I have to agree with Sarah here.
London should breakaway imagine the benefits.
1) London shrinks in size and importance as nobody can get in from outside to work there.
2) Public money actually would get spent elsewhere in the UK.
3) The rest of us might actually be able to buy local homes without Londoners buying them up first.
Maybe we should make Scotland the new capital of the UK at least they could teach us all how to deal with snow. Grabbing my coat, mine's the one that looks like its for an Arctic expedition.
Richard
BBC advice - ha! #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT
Their Heavy Snow: At a Glance page(which I assumed would be blank) was conspicously missing a North and a Scotland until about dinner time. Presumably "Scoop" Nanook couldn't get any mobile reception.
Luis Ogando
North?? #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT

Nottingham is neither North, nor south. It's in the Midlands. The East Midlands, actually. We know this because the telly has East Midlands Today on it..... I think.
Still, a massive clint is wildly entertaining!
Incidentally, it's snowing here in Hannover (that's Germany - possibly North) and all the trams/underground trains are running fine. Vorsprung durch bloody-mindedness!
Paris 'cos, well, she's got a huge clint too (probably)
Anonymous Coward
(untitled) #
Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 14:29 GMT
As per usual, a sprinkling of snow and the whole country falls apart.
In fairness though, those side roads are treacherous, if you drive off it's knowing that sliding into your neighbour's car is on your own head. Never sure if tyre chains are legal on our tarmaced roads, but in any case, never seen them used. So it's up to the councils to get the roads sorted before 'getting up' time :-)
(Of course, if the town planners ensured everyone could live in decent accommodation within walking distance of work, it'd be a lot easier to cope with.)