Universal thaws out The Thing
Variety has confirmed chilling rumours that Universal was planning to remake The Thing - a project described as a "re-imagining" of the classic which first hit the big screen in 1951 and resurfaced in John Carpenter's excellent 1982 adaptation. The rehash is, as were the first two outings for The Thing, based "heavily" on the …
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Next "Big Thing" in the movies:
Reality movies.
Gah. Oh, and Feh.
Mine's the one with the Netflix subscription in the pocket.
So, lemme get this straight...
You're complaining that it's being remade because remakes are inevitably shite and because the last remake was good...?
John Carpenter did such a good job
on the 'original remake'. Why do we need another. IIRC the effects in that film were pretty damn good, particularly for the time.
A great tradition
It'd better be a good remake. The 1982 version is required Midwinter's day viewing for all staff working on British bases in the Antarctic. Scary! And, of course, all bases are equipped the flamethrowers as standard, just in case...
If...
If that kid from the new Indiana Jones is involved in any way, I'm going to kill myself.
Others may die also.
"Why don't we just wait here for a little while... see what happens... "
The original black and white film was so damnably good it's difficult to see how anything could be better, but then the John Carpenter remake was just as fantastic. So lets see what happens. Ron Moore is a good choice at least.
If they cock it up though I'll be as pissed as Dr.Blair in the radio room.
Ah, well...
As long as they keep Michael Bay away from it, it could be interesting. It is an interesting plot, after all. Although — I don't quite see how you would "better" the Carpenter version. Replace the creature effects with less convincing CG? It did not work for any of the more recent Alien / AvP movies, in fact it made them less intense. I also doubt you could cast a more convincing set of actors.
it's a bad idea.. no worse than doing it as TV mini series
which was supposed to happen a couple of years back which mercifully failed..
I'd heard they were going to do it as a Prequel set in the Norwegians camp and be about the ship etc they discovered.
The finest ever to grace the big screen
"I dunno what the hell's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is."
Unbeatable.
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Watched the remake only the other night.... Terrible.
Perhaps best left alone.
Down with this sort of thing.
FFS, stop remaking John Carpenter films and just give the man more money to make something new.
How many
How many decent sci-fi novels are out there waiting to be made fantastic films.. but no. Let's remake.
Takeshi Kovacs, where are you?!
The Thing /could/ be OK, but...
Ms Putman, could I have your missile address please, your post has broken my brain.
(Or in other words - _don't_ give them ideas like that!... *whimper*)
Genre shift
Well, we've had several years of "super hero" films, followed by several years of "global disaster" films. What's next on the list? Horror films have always been in fashion, so let's try that! Maybe after that we'll move on to ...errr ....romantic comedys? Or what about a good old-fashioned "shooting each other to bits with guns" film? (ever seen "We were soldiers"? Jesus!!); they're always good for revenue.
Originality (and historical accuracy, while we're at it) has never been Hollywood's strong point.
The fatal mistake....
...being to actually pay to watch the damn thing in the first place. I'm not hugely interested in this, and have already bought a copy of Carpenter's Thing on DVD, so I'll just watch that instead.
This does raise the ever-present question of why people who don't like remakes pay to see the damn things in the first place....
Never seen the originals
I have no dount that any modern re-imaginging will be dire toss but seeing the praise that's being lavished upon the John Carpenter remake I'm quite tempted to pop along to Amazon and pick up a copy.
John Carpenters The Thing
Was more of a continuation than a remake of the original 1951 version, hence no digging of ships from ice and so on and visiting the Norwegian base, which links it back to the short-story and so on.
Re-making it (which is what Hollywood seem to be doing) is just a terrible idea, the last decent re-make/re-imagining was probably Cronenberg's The Fly.
@Bad Beaver
You had to go and say his name didn't you! Now he'll be top of the list. The sooner the people in charge of making films realise that the Bay Film Butcher shouldn't be allowed to sell popcorn at a cinema, let alone have anything to do with what's on the screen..
www.lilformers.com has a few things to say about him based on the transformers movie
The IT angle in this article, the classic fight between computer and glass of whiskey...phizt
If only Dave had thought to carry a hip flask in 2001, then there would have been much less hassle
Should do a great job
"previous credits include commercials for Bud Light, Heineken, Pepsi, Toyota and Visa"
He'll fit right into Hollywood then.
"I know I'm human..."
A great film - just happened to have bought the 1982 version on Blu-ray. Full of desperation and paranoia. If any future remake is as bad as the remake of The Haunting (1956) then forget it.
With reference to CGI in the remake of The Haunting the poster said "The special effects will leave you terrified!!", err it's special effects - hardly terrifying. Scare me psychologically.
Alien icon obviously.
Re: Takeshi Kovacs
Altered Carbon could make one hell of a movie - stop remaking movies and TV shows, pull Ridley Scott off the A team and give him a budget.
Pull on the new flesh / like borrowed gloves / and burn your fingers once again.
Second worst Idea EVER!
Could only be made worse by haveing Ewe Bol direct it and Shia LeBeouf (indiana jones and transformers star) in it.
There is no way you can improve upon the most perfect survival horror movie of all time. Even if ILM do the CG it'll look really shitty compared to the insane animatronics Carpenter used. The end is even ambiguous enough that its still discussed today.
Remake something rubbish like anything Shia LeBeouf has stared in. Make it better, by getting someone else to play his role. I'd actually find a fog horn going off instead of his inane winging a massive improvement.
Also got to agree:
The day the Earth stood still, worst remake to date, I've even watched a Ewe Bol movie and that was more entertaining.
re Martin Lyne
Spot on there Martin. Altered Carbon and subsequent sequels could go some way to making an awesome series of movies.
Re: how many
Good point Martin. I'd love to see some of the Asimov books done properly, instead of the shower of excrement that was I, Robot. But I don't think hoi poloi would 'get' Asimov's subtlety.
And is the Rama series ever going to make it to the big screen? I'd heard that Rendezvous With Rama was in the works but the rumour seems to have died a death...
As for a remake of The Thing, I think it's a case of 'don't mess with the classics'. The John Carpenter version scared the crap out of me when I was a kid and is still shocking to me as an adult. It's the dogs at the beginning. Where aliendog is put into the compound and just stares ahead and the other dogdogs look a bit nervous. Scary.
@ How many
Takeshi Kovacs - absolutely! they *could* be some truly awesome films
as for the remake - meh.
@Martin Lyne
Amen to that. the rights for the Kovacs movies are sitting in the grubby hands of some damn holywood producer and will be years (if ever) before it appears on screen, and yet they're willing to remake classics that they have no chance of improving upon
christ on a honda
no no no EPIC FAIL! if carpenter would dead he'd be spinnin in his grave like a top
Re: Down with this sort of thing.
"FFS, stop remaking John Carpenter films and just give the man more money to make something new."
Something on par with "Ghosts of Mars"? Shudder. JC was the man in the 80s, but hasn't produced anything of any merit since.
...and the point is???
Most stories are re-hashes of something else. Even if this re-make is a close retelling, it doesn't mean that it's going to be garbage. I happen to like how the new BSG series went, so the same could happen with this. It may have a different take on the concept much like Carpenter's version had a different take. Same basic plot, humans find dangerous frozen E.T., but with different motivations, script, acting... and it turned out fine. And yes... the remake of 'The day the earth stood still' sucked. I put that up to poorly written, badly cast and mis-appropriated special effects money.
@ AC 10:36
wait, you're honestly trying to say that Carpenter's version isn't superior in every way to the original? You prefer the "intellectual carrot" to that dude's head getting ripped off, growing legs and scuttling under the table?
About the only thing that was better in the original is the closing line: "Keep looking. Keep watching the skies!"
I'm siding with the AC on this
"You're complaining that it's being remade because remakes are inevitably shite and because the last remake was good...?"
Kinda hypocritical don't ya think?
Echoing Martin Lyne
The Saga of the 7 Suns (Anderson).
Star Wars-esque real contender, from which at least a trilogy could be made, if not more. Plot, characters, scale, all there ready to be movie-scripted/formatted. And only one example of so much more fresh IP ripe for the taking.
You've just got to wonder :rolleyes:
Remakes
Lets not forget that remakes also suck because 95% of the budget goes to paying someone like keanu reeves to play lead.
How to make a good film
1) Scrap all old material, come up with something new.
2) Hire whomever is cheapest, we really don't care so long as they are good.
Feckless hollywood
When will they learn. Are these not basically the same fuckwits that re-made War of the Worlds who not only changed the story for the worse but cast that little gobshite cruise as the main character.
Jeez!
It's nearly a step too far but if they try to remake Blade Runner I will burn hollywood down myself.
They shouldn't do a remake.
A sequel might be worth considering. The short story leaves open the question of whether or not they finally managed to kill the alien, as does the John Carpenter remake. The 1954 classic is the only one that doesn't leave the question open. All it takes is a single cell brought back to a research facility not far from a major metropolitan area...
You've got to give it to Ron Moore
The guy must have some big cohones taking on a remake of The Thing. The John Carpenter version is one of the best horror films ever. Ever.
re-imagine
I think I expressed my opinion on that particular piece of bull---- before. Was it the BBC talking about re-imagining something, merlin maybe? Blake 7... whatever it may be - jesus.
You'd have thought nobody had written a new story since the 60s with all the shit remakes going on, and holywood wonders why it's going down the pan, hell nowdays people would be better off reading a dictionary then trying to find something interesting or intelligent out of the sewage works they call holywoods major studios.
Jesus. I think Pans Labrynth may be the last really good film I saw, the Orient has a few good interesting films a while back, but the English speaking world is trapped in remake and romcom hell.
When you run out of creative talent ...
... copy something. I wonder is Microsoft backing this.
Paris because it's unlike she'll ever be cloned.
What's everyone frothing about?
It's all on the cards. After all, this is the same crowd (should I perhaps say herd) which "remade" The Flintstones as a movie. Only they used live actors?!!!
@Tom re: Remake - Been Done
"A sequel might be worth considering. The short story leaves open the question of whether or not they finally managed to kill the alien, as does the John Carpenter remake. The 1954 classic is the only one that doesn't leave the question open. All it takes is a single cell brought back to a research facility not far from a major metropolitan area..."
Heh, funnily enough, a remake was done albeit under the auspices of a video game. The Thing for the PS2 put you in command of a military unit that begins with the Norwegian camp and then comes to the American camp.
It maintained the paranoid atmosphere of the original by allowing your colleagues to become infected. Also your colleagues had a healthy paranoia themselves once the shit hit the fan and they realised what they were getting into. That included lack of trust in you, which you could win back by giving them items.
Link here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(video_game)
oooh!
How about we let Bollywood remake The Thing! Surely that'd be excellent!
...mines the colourful one thats slowly peeling itself away to reveal a skinned dog....
Dark Star
Yes and they're going to remake Dark Star with Ben Afflick as Doolittle and Matt Damon as Pinback :(
There can be only one 'Jed'.
There can be only one 'Jed', the Magnificent Malamute who played the parasitized sled-dog in Carpenter's version.
Trying to replace him is like trying to replace Bogey in 'Casablanca'..
[What's that whirring? Aaah! It's the CGI-hordes at Pixar revving up their animation-engines. It'll never work. Die, you bastards! DIE!]
Coat? Mine's the one with the dog-lead in the pocket.
@ Martin Lyne
Kovacs just rocks and would make an ideal SF movie, some RM's other works would also be good (Black Man rather than Market Forces tho).
I am actually struggling to remember a decent remake :o
Re: There can be only one 'Jed'.
Pretty much the best performance by a dog on film ever. (He was part wolf which made him a teensy bit scarier.)
Was I the only one to think...
fronm the title That this was going to be a lame Fantastic 4 spin- off? ;-)
To summarize the posts:
-Anything old is good
-Anything new is shit
-The more things you hate, the cooler you are
-We hate all new things
-We are cool
Anything I missed?
Re: Takeshi Kovacs
Joel Silver optioned Altered Carbon for a reputed seven figure sum. My guess is that it's still in pre-production hell while they figure out how to make a film where the hero swaps bodies multiple times without confusing the hell out of the rednecks ;-)
Paris, because she's not had experience with multiple bodies, or so she says...
@Dark Star
Suggest a remake of Dark Star? You are one vile depraved individual.
The institution that is Dark Star proves beyond doubt that budget & technology merely provide us with the tools of our own downfall..
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