You know who else is going to be pleased?
Or more to the point, you don't know them.
It appears that Twentieth Century Fox is none too pleased with Nancy Cartwright's use of Bart Simpson to punt an upcoming Church of Scientology event in a "robo-calling" recording. Committed Scientologist Cartwright, who has donated $10m to her favourite cult, begins her message with “Hey, what’s happening man, this is Bart …
You know who else is going to be pleased?
Or more to the point, you don't know them.
if it werent for the fact that i absolutely love the simpsons and that i hate it when all of a sudden speakers for animation characters change id say boot her off the show...
Lisa is invariably blathering on about Buddhism? Doesn't that count as an endorsement?
Paris coz something about losing her religion.
"The Simpsons does not, and never has, endorsed any religion, philosophy or system of beliefs any more profound than Butterfinger bars."
Okay, but do they endorse Scientology or not?
How can doing the same voice for 20 years be considered expanding one's abilities?
I love the Simpsons and everyone's entitled to belief/religion/cult of choice, but come on!...
Now, must get back to worshipping Steve with my iPrayer.
"Cartwright, 51, became a Scientologist in 1989, and attributes much of her subsequent success to the church". So, nothing at all to do with working on a long-running animated sitcom that started in 1989 then?
Here's the recording...
...or do these celebrity types get to share money conned out of other "members" of the "church"?
@Richard: Last time I checked Buddhism was a religion, not a bunch of conmen looking for more money and influence.
should sort her out with a baseball bat! unless the devil has given her super human strength.
So she gets bored some place else on Sunday, who cares.
Although before the Daily mail readers chip in is it really acceptable to prevent her using a voice that SHE created for whatever she wants? really I mean if it was you who had create the voice? OK thought not.
So, *before* she joined Scientology she dreamed of making a living doing voice over work on animations and since joining Scientology she's...made a living doing voice over work on animations. So, where exactly is the amazing expansion of abilities please?
In fact, she's been doing the voice of Bart Simpson (clearly her most famous and probably most wealth inducing work) since 1987 and only joined Scientology in 1989. So really, how does she think it's helped her at all. Unless she was having difficulty dealing with the $10,000,000 she gave to them and they did her a favour by taking it from her...!
Perfect opportunity for the SImpsons writers to do the same kind of scientology episode that caused Isaac Hayes to leave South Park.
Lets see if Scientology will give you another career opportunity after leaving simpsons. No it won't you will be a 51 year old actress who will be known only as the voice of Bart... Fail
"Lisa is invariably blathering on about Buddhism? Doesn't that count as an endorsement?"
So do you think Russell T Davies endorses the extermination of all life in the universe?
At least the Sham-o-tologists will stand a chance of getting a (C) takedown themselves for a change.
Someone else must be able to voice Bart similarly, surely?
Her achievements are now totally beyond doing voice-overs for animation, like errr... umm....
Lisa's a geek no-one listens to them, had the character been a useless dimwit with behavioural issues or good at sport then there would be a problem.
Sue her like your representitives (RIAA / MPAA) sue children, grannies, and dead people or i'm never paying for a single piece of any of their media again.
Or don't, and expect it to be used in cases against you.
"my abilities expanded so far and above what I originally dreamed that I've amazed even myself"
Scientology is for clueless people then. So nothing to worry about for us...
Ye gods, I was stuck on the "...I’m now auditing on new OT [Operating Thetan Level] Seven.” bit. Then I used the internet. From the main man himself, "On New OT VII one solo audits at home daily. This is a lengthy level, requiring a considerable amount of time to complete. It is the final pre-OT level, and culminates in attainment of the state of CAUSE OVER LIFE.".
Can they not just create some sort of on-line game where they can do this sort of thing? Keep it out of the real world because it really has no relation to the real world at all.
A few years ago, some of the simpsons voice cast were on the BBC, but refused to do anything 'in-character' at all as this was against policy/not authorised.
Mr Groening isn't gonna be pleased methink!
Why not make Apu turn the Kwik-e-Mart into an Islamic fundamentalist training camp
Anybody remember that episode?
The SImpsons join a cult who are exploiting their followers for financial gain and promising to fly them all off to another planet in a spacecraft. Sound familiar?
I'd sincerely watch out about how you describe the church of Xenu. Before you know it you'll have black 4x4's tailing you at every move!
No, you signed up for a low-key voiceover gig with The Simpsons, which then became one of the most successful TV shows ever, with millions of people seeing your name across their television screens every week. I think that contributed more to your subsequent career than any Thetan voodoo nonsense.
And the rest of the cast apart from guest speakers Paul and Linda McCartney and Apu (who is indian) take the piss out of it. Hell one line is
"Jeesz, Apu, your lot must have been at the back of the queue when they handed out gods".
"Please, Mr Homer, stop feeding my got Peanuts"
Will Nancy accept a sketch taking the piss out of CoS?
Chef in South Park didn't.
Simpsons take the piss out of religion as much as they endorse it.
I thought it was a shit Sci-Fi!
Paris cos even she isn't stupid enough to believe this crap.
It's not like they couldn't find a voice actor who could do a similar voice - and probably at a fraction of the salary.
BTW, I shall not be watching Simpsons again until they remove her from the role.
Well she had $10m to give away, so she must be doing SOMETHING right! So y'know, maybe she might just have a point!
hang on, her dream before was to do voice-overs
and now she's a scientology-drone, she's famous for doing what? voice-overs
it doesn't occur to her that she's owes her fame to the show?
The Simpsons seems pretty consistently left when you compare it to South Park.
so thats two religon then, no cults as yet.
I am sure all the charactors she voices can have accidents and she can be booted from the show!
My opinion of her has now been permanently degraded.
Like me, since first learning of Cartright, I havne't watched another episode and I've been trying to get an address out of Fox to protest and send my Simpsons stuff back to them. I did get a phone numebr - 020 7753 8686
If you want to join in the protest, ask for the Press department and ask them for a postal address to which you can return your Simpson stuff.
Being borged by the Scientologists is just a good career move for a hollywood type similar to joining whatever country club the executives play at even though you hate golf. Of course, going on to donate $10M is just plain nuts. It can't be worth that much. I thought she didn't make all that much (relatively) doing the Simpsons anyways.
ill say no more
I thought Fox owned the voices meaning that the actors can't use them unless promoting something for the Simpsons or something sanctioned by Fox
Fox don't have a leg to stand on - not on the copyright claim anyway. They don't own "Bart Simpson's" voice, it is Nancy Cartwright's voice - she can use it any way she likes. If Richard Wilson made a recording saying :
"You won't believe it, this is Victor Meldrew ...just kidding don’t hang up this is Richard Wilson".
Is there anything the BBC could do?
I suppose Fox can use a copyright CLAIM to get it taken off YouTube - after all YouTube will probably uphold any complaint just to make life easier for themselves. They might even, just possibly have a valid trademark claim.
Having said all that - anyone who has involvement automated robot cold calling deserves to die a horrible death.
Oliver C - Can I suggest a solution that would allow her to be sacked without changing the characters voice (except maybe for one episode) - they could record a episode where Bart takes a job doing phone robot recordings, then the rest of the town could find out and hack him to pieces. Clearly Cartwright might not agree to record this episode, so they could hire a replacement for one show; or given that it is just a single show, they could use a bit audio special effects to cut and paste samples from previous shows. -- Okay it means Bart has to die, but it is worth it if it acts as a warning to anyone else thinking of recording a robot voice for the purpose of cold calling.
If I go into work and use the company connection to get a load of films and dodgy games, all for my own personal gratification, against my employers policies, then tough, I'd end up out on my earhole!
You can't tell me that they can't find a replacement somewhere in the world? Anyway, I can imagine the show can only have a half dozen seasons left by now, they've done 20 odd.
...the sound of... oh my god... yes... I think it is...
The Internet Hate Machine awakes.
So what, she doesn't have it now.
There are more people who have $10m and DON'T work in Scientology than do.
Maybe working in CoS reduces your earnings potential.
@AC 12:28 GMT
Actually, I can't think of when they have had an prominently Islamic character on the show...
<Rev. Lovejoy> "...Be they Christian, Jewish, or Miscelleneous."
Seriously, do these people have a lobotomy when they start making money, or what?
I'm suddenly very glad I've never bought any of those Simpsons box-sets. I like the show, but the thought of my money making its way to these lunatics is nauseating.
I vote Kang and Kodos for the heads of Scientology, come down to J.Travolta & mr mini himself T. Cruise
to say "its all a lie you humans will believe anything"
"Why not make Apu turn the Kwik-e-Mart into an Islamic fundamentalist training camp"
Because Apu is a Hindu?
Thanks for playing .... and come again!
"After I became a Scientologist my abilities expanded so far and above what I originally dreamed that I've amazed even myself." ®
Scientology gives you wiiiiings?
"Although before the Daily mail readers chip in is it really acceptable to prevent her using a voice that SHE created for whatever she wants?"
You'd have a point there, if that's all she did. You might want to reread the story. She used the Bart Simpson character, not merely the voice. Check out the first line of the telephone call- It's quoted in the story.
I would think she has the right to use the voice itself, unless she has signed away such a right. She has no claim whatsoever to the name or character of "Bart Simpson".
>>Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 12:13 GMT
>>@Richard: Last time I checked Buddhism was a religion, not a bunch of conmen looking for
>>more money and influence.
errr.... you obviously don't understand how the Lama class system works then (a bunch of conmen looking for more money and influence).
Religions and pseudo religions are all the same, L Ron may have been an unstable crack head wanting easy money, but at least he made no bones about it.
I don't think we need to worry about what the Simpsons will become after cult lady gets kicked off - its about bloody time Bart's voice broke anyway!
The Simpsons are not funny anymore, the shark was jumped several seasons ago.
Just end the show already.
Hey, she was also the voice of Chucky from Rugrats, and Rufus on Kim Possible
thats a fine career !
...being on the Dark Side. Nothing more, nothing less.
"Use the force Luke..."
Epic logic fail on her part. She was voicing Lisa before becoming a Xenu-hater. Lisa is the only major role she has voiced. How exactly did Hubbardism make her successful?