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The demise late last year of four of the world's biggest spam botnets was good news for anyone with an email inbox, as spam levels were cut in half - almost overnight. But the vacuum has created opportunities for a new breed of bots, some of which could be much tougher to bring down, several security experts are warning. New …

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Coat

'massive networks of infected Windows machines'

Says it all really.

Mines the one with a well designed OS in the pocket

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solution

Anyone that buys anything from a spam mail should be banned from computers, teaching and, breeding.

Anyone who enters details into a site linked from spam/scam mail should be banned from computers, teaching and, breeding.

I know it's harsh, however our office mail gets 90,000 spam mails and 2000 legit mails in a 28 day period (the joys of having a mail domain that's been around for 9 years.)

Eventually with no idiots to buy junk or fall for the fraud from spam the spammers will move on to something more devious but slightly less messy and irritating.

As to infected windows machines, of course they are, their the most common desktop systemm operated by joe average so they're the most complicated for attacks that depend on users being unprepared for attacks.

*ix boxes tend to be the target of more complex and focused attacks against specific targets but when operated by the normal linux user are only marginally more secure then a windows box. If every tom dick and harry had linux installed then you'd see massive networks of linux infected machines.

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Someone should tell the Government

That spammers are peddling kiddie nasties!

That will get some action and cash from them!!!

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Stop

Just to put a stop to that

Before it starts http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/

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@AC

"Mines the one with a well designed OS in the pocket"

This'll be the one that the average Joe can't actually use?

I assume your one of the people also slating Vista for introducing UAC too?

Stop it Steve, don't feel the trolls...

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"the ability to upload the Windows minidump crash dump file to a control server"

Doesn't that make it easier to identify the control server, and find out where those crash dumps are going?

Time to start building some bigger prisons, methinks.

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Coat

infected Windows machines

Please stop redundancy, you're wasting precious bytes.

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Stop

The stoopid thing is....

....many ISP's in the UK give A/V and Firewalls away free, but most people choose not to install them!

I'd make it compulsory if I was an ISP, to have up to date a/v and firewall. It's not like there are no free ones out there!

that would stop a HUUUUGGGEEE amount of this crap out there.

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@Stu Reeves

"I'd make it compulsory if I was an ISP, to have up to date a/v and firewall"

As long as that's only for Windows users, and the ISP doesn't discriminate against OS's which have no need for such parasitic security afterthoughts.

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"I'm a little filthy, I'm a filthy little bot..."

That's why my internet surf pc has no hard drive and starts from a CD. (not really, I was just too lazy to replace the broken HD but it works well)

EA

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Coat

@By Moss Icely Spaceport

Even better:

Tell them they are terrorist spammers peddling global warming kiddie porn.

But knowing the government they would introduce some knee-jerk crap legislation..

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@ tommy pock

Well actually with the popularity of apple devices rising (not so much computers) we have already seen viruses been written to include them as well

So as for your argument in the other link

Meh

I understand bill is a good scapegoat (hell i use him too).

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Spam was down, now back up and using odd charsets

Hmm the amount of spam I get did go down but now it's back up again and it's using UTF-8 encoded UTF-16 titles, like I can't tell those, I've just written a text translator that does just exactly that..

I mean why can't ISP's e-mail or contact in some other way people who's machine appear to be botnets and say "We've noticed a sudden rise in the amount of e-mail traffic".

Or how about blocking any e-mail being sent that's could be a forged address.

i.e myspamaddress@geoff.com when they've not sent one from there - okay would need some checking.. but since "web mail" based stuff all goes via http they'll probably switch to that...

A half decent filter would work as well.

Anon as well - I hate them all..

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