gmail has the best spam filter i have ever had, i route all my email thru it. I find it incredible that google does not do more to stop these spammers. One side of google is busy blocking spam, while the other side is turning a blind eye to it. Right does not know what the left hand is doing and other cliches...

"Google has leapfrogged Microsoft to reach third place in a blacklist of spam-friendly ISPs, "

Surely Google is an Email provider, advertising vendor and lastly but leastly a search engine? An ISP? They certainly don't advertise themselves as selling internet connections..

from wikipedia, natch:

"The ISP connects to its customers using a data transmission technology appropriate for delivering Internet Protocol datagrams, such as dial-up, DSL, cable modem or dedicated high-speed interconnects."

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISP)

Of course, maybe they've finally delivered this product:

http://www.google.com/tisp/

was a joke. They do not provide internet access. neither do Microsoft for that matter. Stop calling them ISPs you utter fucknut.

Where's my dead vulture?

E-mail is an internet service, and Google provides it...

Google could start by accepting abuse complaints. MS could start by not rejecting spam complaints because they contain spam (duh).

Google probably has quite a base of hardcore criminal gangs using their systems. One Chinese credit card thief (Nike spammer) has used Google Groups for years. Pyramid schemes are popular on their blog and web hosting. If past security improvements by Google are any indication, the criminals are having a good laugh over these new claims of cleaning up.

"Taiwanese telco Sistemnet"

Funny how the domain listed on Spamhaus is "sistemnet.com.tr". I was under the impression that .tr was Turkey, and Taiwan was .tw.

I love Google's spam filters as well, but the issue is that they're hosting tons of fraudsters -- that's why they're listed.

Yes, yes, they're not an ISP.

@AC, about 10 seconds of searching the Support area gives you this form to report spam from Gmail accounts: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_phishing

Or you could try the old-fashioned and still-conventional method of sending mail to abuse@gmail.com.

"Where's my dead vulture?"

It was starting to pong a bit and the lads running the crack lab in the basement complained, so they buried it. There's a picture of the tombstone now.

Google, and gmail in particular, has been home to 419 scammers for YEARS.

Regarding complaining to abuse@gmail, "we" have been doing that for years with no noticeable reaction (ie, no response and no cessation of the accounts being used). It's known in the spamfighting community as a complaint blackhole.

Google supposedly started cleaning up gmail's act a few months ago, but as I understand it their position when dealing with DNSBLs has consistently been "We are too big to block. If you blacklist us, people will stop using your DNSBL"

UUnet, Hotmail and Yahoo have held to the same position in the past (or threatened to sue).

Yahoo is still widely blackholed in part because of their sluggish/zero action about spammers using Yahoo mail accounts, but moreso because they happily host _PAYING_ spammers on Yahoo Stores.

Black helicoptor, because that's what's needed to find and eliminate spammers.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WIKIPAEDIA SAYS! SO YOU CAN'T BE RIGHT!!1 EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WIKIPAEDIA IS THE SUM OF ALL KNOWLEDGE!!!1! THE WHOLE INTERNET HIVEMIND AGREES!!!11!! HOW DARE YOU NOT GO ALONG WITH THE WHOLE INTERNET!!!1!1 IDIOT!111

Click on the arrow next to 'Reply' and select 'Report Phishing' from the drop down menu.