Posted Monday 5th January 2009 12:28 GMT
Are the armed forces counted in the MoD? I suspect that if this is the case then I imagin that it is alot easyer to loose a security pass in the bottem of your bergan on the way to Helmand than it is for you to loose it in your brefcase on the tube.
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 13:32 GMT
37,863 out of how meny if the mod issues 100x the passes of the other departments then as a percentage they are in fact less likly to lose passes than other departments?
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 13:39 GMT
Or do they just get promoted to a desk job without crayons?
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 14:33 GMT
Of these passes were issued to civil servants or members of the armed forces.
I work within the defence sector and currently on the site I work at there is a major refurbishment going on. Consequently there are several hundred builders, plumbers, electricians and associated tradesmen all of whom have been issued with an ID card. Some of these are transient and therefore may not be working here next week. If they don't hand back their pass, then that probably counts as lost.
Because of the nature of most MoD locations, it's hardly surprising that they issue a _lot_ of passes.
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 14:33 GMT
sounds like a title for the sequel to Yes Minister.
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 15:02 GMT
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Since you've stated that Chris Huhne *said* this and you've got him down as the source quoted, the "sic" cannot be used and you should just have quietly corrected the spelling as the misspelling is part of the transcription of the quote and not the quote itself.
In order for that to make sense, you would have to introduce this as something like: "...Chris Huhne, as quoted in today's <insert name of misspelled source>, said".
Unless, of course, he wrote it rather than said it..........
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Posted Monday 5th January 2009 15:19 GMT
Surely the pass is nondescript. A photo (of the person in civies) at most and nothing else. No badge, address or number to differentiate it from any other generic ID badge. Also, surely, as soon as the pass is reported missing it gets de-activated (and thus poses no risk).
Lose the pass - what's the big? Unless it says "Direct access to top-secret nuclear base" on it, no-one will know what it is for.
Really, this is a big hoo-hah over precisely nothing.
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 15:58 GMT
About 1 in every 10,000 British Citizens has lost one of these ID cards.
How many of us actually work for the government?
They could introduce a policy where losing your ID card meant paying £10 for a new one or getting the sack for not being at your desk during working hours. That would generate them more than £50,000 each year... not a lot in terms of government budgets but that's not the point. It would also give emlpoyees more of an incentive to keep a close eye on their ID!
Posted Monday 5th January 2009 19:13 GMT
"Work and Pension's secretary"???
I expect better from John Oates
Posted Tuesday 6th January 2009 00:37 GMT
What a useless, inept shower of shite.
That is all.
Posted Tuesday 6th January 2009 09:56 GMT
When the Government has so much other data to lose?
Posted Tuesday 6th January 2009 10:05 GMT
Congratulations on your creative spelling attempt - you've won the originality contest !
Posted Tuesday 6th January 2009 13:57 GMT
Didn't we do this story last year? Once again the MOD passes are as issued to all members of the Armed forces, all civilian support staff and all contractors who regularly visit MOD bases. That's around 200,000 passes. Losing 38,000 in 8 years represents less than 3% per year. Given that these cards are useless to anyone who doesn't look the same as the image on the card I'm struggling to see the crisis.
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