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Microsoft staff cuts due next month?

PushF12

layoffs should kill the Microsoft dream 

Happy

We're starting to see the labor dearth caused by the dot-com bust, and it would be nice if students are further discouraged by some newsworthy cuts at Microsoft.

I get annoyed by the large number of junior programmers that think they have a potential career track into Microsoft (or the video games industry), and I would enjoy posting the eventual El Reg story on the cafeteria corkboard to crush their dreams and make them less likely to leave.

Moss Icely Spaceport

Hasta la vista the Vista team? 

Joke

It's only fair!

Anonymous Coward

"death throws"? 

Alert

Balmer's tantrum-fuelled furniture abuse has /really/ got out of hand

Anonymous Coward

to account for their work by the hour. 

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What a wonderful way to kill productivity. I know I have seen it.

Anonymous Coward

Its about time ! 

Linux

To quote the article:

"meetings and interrogations about the work they are doing"

It's taken this long for M$ to realise that their organisation is top heavy, bloated, slow, expensive, people who are hanging around but wtf are you doing taking resource - does this sound familiar folks ?

It amazes me that it takes 91,000 people to write a half arsed OS, shite browser, wayyyyyyyyyy overpriced office suite, a search engine that can't find dick and an inferior games console. If anyone can add to this list please feel free.

M$ wasting YOUR money !

Mark Wills

Horrible company 

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A quote from the blog quoted in the article:

"you have to realize that the upcoming 2009 Mid Year Career Discussion review process is one of the most important career inflection-points for you that we've had in a long, long time. Already my team is being asked to review people on the HR Watch List deeply and especially look at any two-time-plus 10%'s, no matter whether they are Situation I (eh, should be fired) or Situation II (effective but have reached their career maximum - again, a horrible, horrible concept)."

Effective but have reached their career maximum.

What a bunch of evil bastards. God I thank my lucky stars I don't work for that shower of twats.

Merry Feckin' Christmas.

James

@Its about time 

Stop

It amazes me that you knew all this about MS, but they didn't themselves. You must be a genius.

It amazes me that you think you know what you're talking about

Anonymous Coward

@james 

Linux

You must have worked for Lehman Bothers with your wonderful degree of foresight or maybe a farmyard judging by your debating skills. Ever heard of the Law of Diminishing Returns or Diseconomies of Scale ?

Oh and how much more do you think M$ would have been in it, after dumping such a lemon on the World as Vista, to pay $47.5 Billion for Yahoo? Even a blind,deaf, one legged baboon could have seen this coming. So where does that leave you ?

:0)

Anonymous Coward

The inside expectations are... 

Gates Horns

The numbers being talked about internally are around the 10% range. The "interrogation" comments are spot-on... and rather disgraceful that a company can treat any human being the way that they are. But for most of Microsoft... they dwell in a right-to-work state so nothing can really be done about it.

-anony

RotaCyclic

career maximum 

"career maximum - again, a horrible, horrible concept)."

This sounds like age discrimination, which is now illegal.

Anonymous Coward

@James 

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Your doctor called... sad he forgot to prescribe Stockholm syndrome medication.

Seriously... wake up people.... this is the best thing to happen to Microshaft... maybe they will hire on people with brains.

: O P

Windows is a seriously botched OS.... along with everything else.

Anonymous Coward

@RotaCyclic 

I'm not a Microsoft Employee, but know a few former and current ones. "Career maximum" is not “age-related discrimination".

Career Maximum means your management believes you are at the highest level you are capable of handling. If you are a great coder, but unable to handle the running meetings to bring together multiple groups to agree on common functionality for a feature, and you are considered unlikely to develop this skill... Well, you can't really expect a promotion to the level where that would be your job, can you?

Now, the actual implementation of this isn't perfect- How long do you wait before you decide someone is unlikely to develop a skill? How do you decide that someone can't, say, run a meeting? You even have a bit of a skew, in that an older employee is likely to have been promoted a few times, so they are more likely to have reached whatever maximum they might have. And what do you do with an employee who has reached their maximum? Keep them happy, well fed, and in the same level of a job, or get rid of them and hire a new person who might top out higher?

Of course, individual managers might use this as a tool to discriminate against older employees, or even blue eyed employees with six fingers on their left hand, but that’s true of any tool with any sort of subjective metric.

James Pickett

Cue Nelson Muntz 

"to try and grow a successful online services business"

Oh dear. Never mInd. I wonder if Ballmer's productivity get assessed, too? I guess he could always get a job testing furniture...

Anonymous Coward

Upcoming "career inflection-point" 

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LOL. Straight out of Dilbert, surely?

I'm now looking forward to the upcoming M$ company inflection-point.