career maximum #
Posted Friday 26th December 2008 11:18 GMT
"career maximum - again, a horrible, horrible concept)."
This sounds like age discrimination, which is now illegal.
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 12:57 GMT
We're starting to see the labor dearth caused by the dot-com bust, and it would be nice if students are further discouraged by some newsworthy cuts at Microsoft.
I get annoyed by the large number of junior programmers that think they have a potential career track into Microsoft (or the video games industry), and I would enjoy posting the eventual El Reg story on the cafeteria corkboard to crush their dreams and make them less likely to leave.
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 12:57 GMT
Balmer's tantrum-fuelled furniture abuse has /really/ got out of hand
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 12:57 GMT
What a wonderful way to kill productivity. I know I have seen it.
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 12:57 GMT
To quote the article:
"meetings and interrogations about the work they are doing"
It's taken this long for M$ to realise that their organisation is top heavy, bloated, slow, expensive, people who are hanging around but wtf are you doing taking resource - does this sound familiar folks ?
It amazes me that it takes 91,000 people to write a half arsed OS, shite browser, wayyyyyyyyyy overpriced office suite, a search engine that can't find dick and an inferior games console. If anyone can add to this list please feel free.
M$ wasting YOUR money !
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 12:57 GMT
A quote from the blog quoted in the article:
"you have to realize that the upcoming 2009 Mid Year Career Discussion review process is one of the most important career inflection-points for you that we've had in a long, long time. Already my team is being asked to review people on the HR Watch List deeply and especially look at any two-time-plus 10%'s, no matter whether they are Situation I (eh, should be fired) or Situation II (effective but have reached their career maximum - again, a horrible, horrible concept)."
Effective but have reached their career maximum.
What a bunch of evil bastards. God I thank my lucky stars I don't work for that shower of twats.
Merry Feckin' Christmas.
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 14:52 GMT
It amazes me that you knew all this about MS, but they didn't themselves. You must be a genius.
It amazes me that you think you know what you're talking about
Posted Wednesday 24th December 2008 20:43 GMT
You must have worked for Lehman Bothers with your wonderful degree of foresight or maybe a farmyard judging by your debating skills. Ever heard of the Law of Diminishing Returns or Diseconomies of Scale ?
Oh and how much more do you think M$ would have been in it, after dumping such a lemon on the World as Vista, to pay $47.5 Billion for Yahoo? Even a blind,deaf, one legged baboon could have seen this coming. So where does that leave you ?
:0)
Posted Friday 26th December 2008 11:18 GMT
The numbers being talked about internally are around the 10% range. The "interrogation" comments are spot-on... and rather disgraceful that a company can treat any human being the way that they are. But for most of Microsoft... they dwell in a right-to-work state so nothing can really be done about it.
-anony
Posted Friday 26th December 2008 11:18 GMT
"career maximum - again, a horrible, horrible concept)."
This sounds like age discrimination, which is now illegal.
Posted Friday 26th December 2008 11:18 GMT
Your doctor called... sad he forgot to prescribe Stockholm syndrome medication.
Seriously... wake up people.... this is the best thing to happen to Microshaft... maybe they will hire on people with brains.
: O P
Windows is a seriously botched OS.... along with everything else.
Posted Friday 26th December 2008 18:01 GMT
I'm not a Microsoft Employee, but know a few former and current ones. "Career maximum" is not “age-related discrimination".
Career Maximum means your management believes you are at the highest level you are capable of handling. If you are a great coder, but unable to handle the running meetings to bring together multiple groups to agree on common functionality for a feature, and you are considered unlikely to develop this skill... Well, you can't really expect a promotion to the level where that would be your job, can you?
Now, the actual implementation of this isn't perfect- How long do you wait before you decide someone is unlikely to develop a skill? How do you decide that someone can't, say, run a meeting? You even have a bit of a skew, in that an older employee is likely to have been promoted a few times, so they are more likely to have reached whatever maximum they might have. And what do you do with an employee who has reached their maximum? Keep them happy, well fed, and in the same level of a job, or get rid of them and hire a new person who might top out higher?
Of course, individual managers might use this as a tool to discriminate against older employees, or even blue eyed employees with six fingers on their left hand, but that’s true of any tool with any sort of subjective metric.
Posted Sunday 28th December 2008 14:49 GMT
"to try and grow a successful online services business"
Oh dear. Never mInd. I wonder if Ballmer's productivity get assessed, too? I guess he could always get a job testing furniture...
Posted Friday 2nd January 2009 11:57 GMT
LOL. Straight out of Dilbert, surely?
I'm now looking forward to the upcoming M$ company inflection-point.