I was having the trackpad issue before the trackpad update a few weeks ago, and haven't had any trackpad problems since then.

I also had the won't-stay-asleep problem and the freeze-on-wake, but they were so intermittent that it'll be a while before I know if the fix actually fixed them.

I haven't had the 'black screen of death' problem at all before or after the update (even during intense gaming sessions both using Crossover and BootCamp).

awesome. feels like i've got a rev 2 machine now!! woo hooo

no probs with crashing so far at all.

The two-finger gesture (no, not a euphemism) scrolling wasn't working on my new MBP. I watched the video to check I wasn't being a spacky UNIX goon who didn't understand how to lasciviously caress a Mac, but I was doing it right.

However, still no dice. I tried two fingers from opposite hands. I tried staggering when I put my fingers on it. I ever tried making my fingers into a tiny dancing M.C. Hammer, and intoning "Stop! Hammer Time!" to no avail.

Eventually, I found the answer. It all worked fine in a new user account- but not the one migrated from my old G4 Powerbook. There were some prefs for the old touchpad which were fouling stuff up. After popping open a shell, and a magical plist-nuking invocation, all was fine with my normal account.

So now the funny gestures work just fine. They've taken some getting used to, but actually, they really are a smooth and effortless way to manipulate the gui.

- The Invisible Opera Company

I always thought the argument for Apple maintaining the closed wall of it's own hardware tied to it's own software was to remove the sort of woes Microsoft has to overcome supporting myriad different platforms?

Perhaps the counter argument, that a closed monopoly (in the hardware provision) breeds complacency, might have more truth?

am i missing something in these comments or something?

Closed hardware etc??? but you can run os x , windows and linux on macs too? same as pc's except the are not allowed to run os x.

so the consumer has the choice to do all they can on a mac that they can do on a pc?? and i wrong here?

or maybe you referred to the config options when you buy? well to-date 99% of all people i know with laptops have ever only updated the ram, sometimes the HD, but mainly dont touch it.

" a closed monopoly (in the hardware provision)" -- dont ALL manufacturers have a monopoly over how they produce their own hardware? I cant order a Sony laptop and tell them to put in a PPC chipset.

anyway, fuck Apple for releasing a Firmware update, the bastards. They should have not bothered and let us the way we were. We'd all be happier.

All of us here on the forum have SO much experience in running a large Multinational and we all know that its possible to release every product with 100% perfection. Its easy to predict and test all possible combinations of what each user will do with a laptop. OR... maybe we are all muppet employees at a desk job without the balls to go out and take a risk and try it ourselves...

hmmm, thank god its friday, i think the pills are wearing off.

I know trolls shouldn't be fed but...

Closed hardware - the user gets what the almighty Jobs and his disciples decree what the user shall have. The choice you have is between a handful of machines, whereas the personal computer makers create various permutations of sizes and specification at various price points to suit a wide range of uses. I can go to Sony and choose from 11.1, 13.3, 14, 15.4, 16.2, 17 and 18.4 inch sizes with every permutation of drive, processor, RAM, optical drive type, GPX card, etc. plus some manufacturers will let you choose if you want the AMD or Intel model. Asus quite literally seem to want to build every possible variation of machine known to man especially...

Closed Choice - yes, the consumer can use the Mac as a PC or Linux machine if they so choose. But they don't get the reciprocal arrangement from Apple not letting us geeks use their software on anything but their proprietary works of art. This lack of choice annoys us as we believe in user choice, especially for $1000+! Of course, when someone attempts to use a bit or Apple branded hard or software for a non-intended role, out come the lawyers and the litigation begins until the little guy/schoolboy/grandma is broke and suicidal...

I think if Apple uses perfection as its main advertising campaign where it "just works" then they are fair game for some stick, especially at their inflated prices!

Schizophrenia dosen't count.

As for the rest.... every new piece of hardware that comes out always has 1 or 2 glitches... thats a fact.

There are these little updates.. called driver updates...

OR BIOS for that matter

Duh!

Stop sinking into the pit of Stockholm syndrome and try being rational for once!

I own a MBP.... and its doing just fine and dandy.

I fix computers for a living.... don't be making stupid comments about things you don't know or understand. Windows Laptops are nightmares to repair.... at least the Mac ones make sense... provided the user is smart enough not to drop im or spill something on them..etc..etc..

lets see how all the config options offered by Sony etc pan out over the next year or so, shall we.

Already the phone makers have realised that they have too many offerings making the choice confusing, in light of Apples single offering.

Same will apply to PC's in the current economy... the logistics of all the offerings and the stock costs and multiple production line configs etc become a noose around your neck.

and relating to OSx on non-macs, even though i would love to see it, i fully understand Apples stance.its their product, they decide where to sell it and on what device.. their decision. I'd prob do the same in their position... profitable company with big cash pile.. seems to be working. And yes, i am capitalist, not a tree hugging hippy. ;-)

anyway, my original point was that you can run everything on a mac that you can on a pc, so the Mac is not a closed hardware...

lets face it... bmw's, ferraris, audis cost more than skodas, fords, volkswagens. People pay for brand, image and also (percieved) quality. Apple take advantage of that. fair play to them.

You should remember, this is the first version. The reconditioned first or next version will have all the bugs ironed out -thanks to those that bought into the first version. If I do decide to get a new laptop to run Autodesk inventor and overweight, bloated AutoCAD, I'll get a reconditioned MBP -hey I'm cheap and ...thanks for testing!

You, sir, are in grave danger of making too much sense! ^_^ But really, good post and well said. Now, just watch out for Webster Phreaky stalking you...

Paris, because, well... stalking... and... such.

your post confused me as a cant make out if you were agreeing or not, but anyway :

Re point 1. I wasnt relating fewer production lines to getting the product right. I was only pointing out that fewer lines can be better. You still have to go through the same process of getting the product right no matter how many lines you have.

Re point 2. you are mixing producing hardware that runs any os, with open source software. Not sure how you made that leap. And who said they have to give their software back? their choice. My original point that its not closed hardware stands. You can run any os on it that you are allowed.

@Kiminao : many thanks!! but maybe it was me stalking webster for the last few months.. ;-)