Not the apps at fault #
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
Not really the apps at fault is it?
Android, being basically unfinished, added an option that doesn't work properly.
Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 21:04 GMT
And people have the audacity to complain that Apple vets each app before it is allowed on the app store. At least i can relax in the knowledge that my phone wont run up massive data charges!!!!
Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 21:05 GMT
The 'solution' provided by the 'what's needed' comment is complete bollocks frankly.
No app should be allowed to cost you money without you not knowing, home network or not.
Epic failure, rattlement and exposure.
Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 21:05 GMT
My iPhone wouldnt do that as Apple has a stranglehold on the market and it turns water into wine.
/No I dont have an iPhone
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 00:47 GMT
...exactly why Apple has been so scroogish with their application dev.
I'll bet there are some REAL NASTY Android apps waiting in the shadows, with brickbats.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
Not really the apps at fault is it?
Android, being basically unfinished, added an option that doesn't work properly.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
...the carriers are still fleecing people for data charges.
With the advent of the iPhone and Android (and all the other 'smartphones around') it's about time the carriers - who punt mobile internet connectivity as if it's a right not a privilege - started making the charging structure so people can just us it without running up large bills.
It's not fair to blame the app developers, nor the platform. If a platform comes out which offers GPS, web connectivity, etc., etc then why not use it? Complaining that it's the app devs fault is a bit like somebody complaining when they installed vista without having broadband and then had to pay for 3 weeks' of constant dial-up connection costs because it had to download 300MB of updates.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
behold the googlebeast has ticks, leaches and oh? FAIL!!!! :D
(and to retain impartiality: hahaha AppleBoi's why doesn't your jesusphone let you cut and paste? hahaha FAIL!)
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!
(Collective response of Apple Fanbois, of which I'm one!)
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 10:17 GMT
Regards the solution: Most people have home wifi that doesn't cost anything to use (other than the monthly broadband cost). I guess yours charges for bandwidth?
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 11:14 GMT
Guess it all goes back to the old issue of how unlimited, is unlimited!
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 11:14 GMT
there were so many El Reg readers last year saying how horrific it was that Apple were locking down the apps on the iPhone and how it was a human rights violations and all sorts and how Android would show the world the way
funny how none of them have commented on this story to explain why it's still such a good idea to allow apps on the device this kind of control
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 11:40 GMT
How strange. Windows Mobile doesn't have an App Store, and I've never had an app initiate a shady data connection wtihout telling me.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 11:59 GMT
It warns you before you download any app what it can do on your phone (even pathetic stuff like "disable sleep mode"), if you accept that the app you're downloading can connect when it wants, then it's your own fault!
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 13:57 GMT
I've had a Windows app initiate a data connection without notifying me. That's because I wanted an app that would do that. I'd be a bit miffed if I'd bought an iPhone and found that an app which needed to instantiate a connection (e.g., an RSS aggregator) couldn't do so because of some dumb limitation of the OS.
Although the iPhone circumvents the 'shady background apps initiating a connection' by not allowing any apps to run in the background. D'oh.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 14:47 GMT
If I actually read the agreements of all the software I've ever downloaded/installed, I'd be sitting here reading with a backlog of about 2 years to go.
A tombstone 'cause that's where I'll be by the time I've read them all.
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 16:28 GMT
That's really great Matt, don't take your *mobile* phone out of range of your home WiFi in case you get raped by roaming charges. Awesome
Posted Friday 12th December 2008 19:57 GMT
It is true that an app can send network data on its own if you grant it permissions for that. But there is a setting which disables data when roaming:
Settings -> Wireless Controls -> Mobile networks -> Data roaming - Connect to data services when roaming.
This is enabled by default but can be turned off. I wonder if apps are overriding this as well or if unchecking this would solve the problem. It seems like it would be better to have this setting disabled by default to prevent this sort of thing and to not let applications override it. So I suspect a work-around would be to simply uncheck this setting.
Posted Saturday 13th December 2008 13:00 GMT
Not having looked at android yet I'm not sure how configurable the connections are but surely this should be easy for anyone with even minimal tech skills.
Simply set up any WIFI connections with your preferred encryption and passwords etc and then set any network data (GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA etc) connections to request a password.
When I'm anywhere that I have "unlimited" access, data works no problems, If i'm out and want to go online, the phone wont connect unless I switch the password option off on the connection I want to use.
none of the network defined connections actually require a password but forcing the phone to ask for one prevents it from inadvertantly connecting and me having to explain high data charges to my boss - takes a few seconds to change the setting
mines the one with the large pocket for the rediculous N61 calulator lookalike that work requires i carry around...
Posted Saturday 13th December 2008 13:05 GMT
doesn't use apps... saving £hundreds.
I have a camera for taking pictures, a piece of paper for taking notes and I install programs on a computer which has reasonable security. The phone I use just as a phone. Oh, and these rogue apps were nothing to do with me.