Clangers creator dies at 83
Dick Emery
Sad :( #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:43 GMT

My childhood just got a kick in the Clangers.
Andrew Moore
There goes part of my childhood... #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:43 GMT

I'll always remember the Clangers cameo on Doctor Who...
I just hope Coolbai don't fuck Bagpuss up- I mean look what's happened to Bill and Ben and Postman Pat (not to mention Pinky and Perky).
Ponder Stebbins
FX #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:43 GMT

FX - Makes whistling sound, descending in pitch.
Anonymous Coward
Ivor before Noggin? #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:43 GMT

Erm, fact checker: I think you'll find Noggin The Nog was before Ivor The Engine (and possibly Smallfilm's first success, I'm not sure). Early Noggin's were in fact B&W. I can remember watching ItE on first broadcast in the later 70's.
Go to YouTube, there's loads of episodes on there. I found them and introduced my kids to them all, and now they love them almost as much as I still do... :-)
RIP Oliver - and thank you x
Dave Harris
So sad #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
I never realised that Ivor the Engine came before the others. It's such a same that children today don't have programs of such imagination and craft to watch (although my daughter loves her Trumpton dvd).
Emily must be feeling very sad.
Paul
One poster on the BBC got it spot on #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
"Oliver hasn't died. Bagpuss has gone to sleep - and when Bagpuss goes to sleep all of his friends go to sleep."
Trevor Watt
All his shows are still running #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
You can see all his programs on Nicklodeon after seven at night, my kids love them as much as I did when I was there age nearly 40 years ago.
Bagpuss, dear Bagpuss
Old Fat Furry Catpuss
Wake up and look at this thing that I bring
Wake up, be bright, be golden and light
Bagpuss, oh hear what I sing
Secretgeek
Woooooeeeee-ooooeeeeooo-eeeeuuuu #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

Farewell Mr Postgate,
I could say that 'They don't make 'em like that anymore' but then again I wouldn't really want 'them' too.
His creations are a very special part of my childhood and I for one would like to thank him for that.
Vincent
Oh dear #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

"The BBC notes that in October this year company Coolbai acquired the right to many of his characters, and said it "planned to introduce Bagpuss to a new generation"."
Don't think many folks will like the sound of that.
Anonymous Coward
Introduce Bagpuss to a new generation? #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

Probably fully equipped with an Apache gunship and a Ferrari, given what they've done to postman pat.
Yours,
A. Cynic
supermeerkat
Thanks for the wonderful memories Mister Postgate... #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

you created some of the most memorable of my childhood entertainment.
Wize
Bagpuss - The Next Generation #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

Bet if it does come back, it will be a cartoon.
Hope they cremate him, so he can't spin in his grave over that.
Bagpuss,
Dear Bagpuss,
Old fat furry cat-puss,
Wake up and look at this thing that I bring.
Wake up, be bright,
Be golden and light.
Bagpuss, oh hear what I sing.
Mines the pink and white stripy one.
pctechxp
Bagpuss was overrated #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
Ivor and the Clangers were best.
Though a little before my time I enjoyed the repeats when I was young.
We've lost yet another legend.
RIP
Anonymous Coward
A bit sad about this #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

Always loved Postgate's stuff....
"And when Bagpuss was asleep..."
Anonymous Coward
Not a lot of people know... #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

that Mr Postgate also wrote an occasional column for that (once?) fine organ, the New Statesman.
A lovely example from February this year:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/oliver-postgate/2008/02/money-devil-god-bank
There's more (much more), and well worth a look, at http://www.oliverpostgate.co.uk/
A proper article might have had at least one of these links in it.
Thank you Mr Postgate, we'll remember you.
Simon Round
Hmmmmm.... #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
"The BBC notes that in October this year company Coolbai acquired the right to many of his characters, and said it "planned to introduce Bagpuss to a new generation". "
No doubt using high end computer graphics therefore loosing the wonderful charm of the original animation.
I grew up with these characters and feel it is a sad day with the loss of one of their creators.
Spbmssen
Sad, sad day #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

I always maintained a feint hope that one day CBBC or CBeebies would go to Oliver Postgate, cap in hand, and say "OK, you were right - most of what we're doing IS crap...what have you got?". Sadly the opportunity is gone, but we still have the videos and DVDs of the Smallfilms output to remind ourselves, and show our children, how to tell a story for television.
Lazy Town can shove the Secret Show up the Fimble's collective arse.
God bless Oliver Postgate, god bless Peter Firmin.
In Mr Postgate's memory, lets now boycott the BBCs childrens' channels until they agree to stop purveying the merchandise-led, brainless bottom-gravy that teaches our kids nothing but how to be brash, loud, soulless and dumb.
Anonymous John
Weeooo_ooeeeoo_woooeeeooo #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

Weeooo_ooeeeoo_woooeeeooo, weeooo_ooeeeoo_woooeeeooo
Nick Palmer
*Sniff* #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

"Bagpuss gave a big yawn, and settled down to sleep. And when Bagpuss goes to sleep, all his friends go to sleep too. The mice are ornaments on the Mouse Organ, Gabriel and Madeleine are just dolls. And Professor Yaffle is just a carved wooden book-end in the shape of a woodpecker. Even Bagpuss himself, once he is asleep, is just an old, saggy cloth cat - baggy and a bit loose at the seams. But Emily loved him."
Lloyd
Bugger #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT

The man was a genius I tell ya, his work will live on even though he's resting peacefully.
Anonymous Coward
Bagpuss X #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
"The BBC notes that in October this year company Coolbai acquired the right to many of his characters, and said it "planned to introduce Bagpuss to a new generation"."
So expect Bagpuss to be retitled Bagpuss X and storylines to include Bagpuss the saggy moggy battling across dimensions with the evil exo-Mice to find the Ultra Mega Hyper Key in order to save the Universe. Or maybe I've watched too much Toonatik.
Nevertheless, this is a great loss to all of us who were children of this era.
Anonymous Coward
I blame the mice #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 14:46 GMT
"We can fix him, we can mend him" - Not this time, lads.
Simon Ward
RIP #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 15:06 GMT

SWMBO will be gutted - she's a major fan of Bagpuss. Personally, I found it a bit *too* odd at times and besides, were it not for Ivor The Engine I wouldn't have developed an interest in railways and, in particular, industrial steam locomotives. God, I must have been an impressionable youngster :-)
All the same, it's very sad - another cornerstone of my childhood has passed on. Think there's only Brian Cant left now ...
Like many others, I don't hold out much hope for the 'reimaginings' of Bagpuss et.al. given the almighty mess that was made of Postman Pat.
Mine's the hi-vis one with M&LRTCL on the back.
Stuart Elliott
Farewell.. #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:20 GMT

Sorry to hear such a sad loss, his creations kept me a happy boy.
On a lighter (and hopefully not too sick note) - I almost hope, that, when they lower his coffin into the soil, you hear a "heeeeeave, heeeeeeeave, heeeeeeeeeave"..
Anonymous Coward
So farewell, Oliver, #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:20 GMT
You were never much good at snogging the nog
bits would drop off unexpectedly
as well you didn't create Woody Woodpecker.
And now. The Final.
Yawn.
EJ Thribb (age)
P.S. I've asked Santa for the DVD collection
Stevie
Bah #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:20 GMT

Nogin the Nog came *before* Ivor the Engine. I was watching the former sometime around 1959 and I was doing "O" levels when the latter came on.
That said:
How sad. I can only properly express my sorrow at the passing of this great man with the aid of a swanee whistle. He made life bearable for a few minutes each day.
No doubt all the episodes of Clangers were lost when the video tape was re-used for Blankety-Blank, and we shall be denied the definitive DVD collection of his work.
Flugal
Oliver Postgate dies and Jaqui Smith lives... #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:20 GMT

...is there no justice?
Thank you, belatedly, Mr Postgate for the huge contribution you have made to British society.
Red Bren
Coolbai to remake Bagpuss? #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:20 GMT

I for one welcome our new, stripy pink feline overlord!
Is Tux the new Professor Yaffle?
Tawakalna
Nogbad the Bad #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:46 GMT
no-one ever remembers Noggin the Nog. Way before Ivor the Engine. I remember watching the very first episode of Ivor, but I preferred The Herbs meself. Still do!
oh, those Herbs....
Ben
@ Stevie #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:46 GMT
"No doubt all the episodes of Clangers were lost when the video tape was re-used for Blankety-Blank, and we shall be denied the definitive DVD collection of his work."
Not so - they're available on DVD from your local massively-overgrown online, tat emporium.
The Clangers used to be my standard breakfast viewing before regattas, as Channel 4 would show them early on Saturday mornings. Happy memories...
Ian Johnston
Psht-coof. Psht-coof. Psssssshhhht-cooooof. #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 21:07 GMT

Both Ivor the Engine and Noggin the Nog appeared in 1959: Ivor was the first Smallfilms production. In the seventies, all but the first six of the original Ivors (which explained, inter alia, how he came to sing in the choir) were remade in colour, as were a few Noggins in 1979.
So anyone watching - as I did - in the seventies would have seen nice new coloured Ivors and old black and white Noggins: hence, I think, the confusion about which came first.
These quibbles aside, Oliver Postgate is a sad loss. There is a gentleness, a lyricism and an imagination to the Postgate and Firmin work which is completely lacking from the hyperactive, in-yer-face children's TV of today.
I bought the DVD of the colour Ivors on Saturday, for a friend's 3-year-old son who is laid up with illness. He's enchanted.
Andy Taylor
A sad loss #
Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 23:05 GMT

Oliver Postgate was a truely inspired and inspirational man and I am sad to hear that he has died.
I remember watching Ivor, Bagpuss and the Clangers when growing up and now my children are fans as well. They watch (nearly) all the modern shows and enjoy them, and are equally happy to sit down and watch Ivor or the Clangers on DVD. This is a true measure of the genius of Postgate and Firmin.
Anonymous Coward
my eye are leaking #
Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 01:51 GMT

'nuf said.
Mr Larrington
@Tawakalna #
Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:47 GMT

Au contraire. There was even a stage version[1] in the early 80's. This I know because one of Dr. Larrington's friends played the role of Graculus. Can anyone remind me which Nog it was who, whenever confronted with something potentially hazardous, would say something along the lines of "I'll stay here and guard the horses"?
However, anyone who bigs up anything other than The Clangers is a menk. I had to spend much of last night comforting my Authentic Whistling Major Clanger, who lives on top of my bedside light.
Bah!
1 - it was this: a rubbish
Nigel Birch
'nuf said? #
Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:47 GMT

mine too
Pum
Many thanx Oliver Postgate #
Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:47 GMT

... for the wonderful shows you and Peter Firmin made. Noggin the Nog was a bit before my time, but I loved Ivor the Engine, Clangers and Bagpuss from the moment I saw them as a small child. Now, as a small adult I have them on DVD and still enjoy them.
The world is a better place for you having been in it and done the things you did. This goes to show you don't have to conquer nations, wield great power, or harm people to make a difference and be remembered.
Anonymous Coward
the poetry of childhood #
Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:47 GMT
The opening of Noggin the Nog is poetry in itself.....
In the Lands of the North, where the black rocks stand guard against the cold sea, in the dark night that is very long, the men of the Northlands sit by their great log fires and they tell a tale...
Can you imagine something as melancholic on kids tv today?