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German national library rocks blogosphere

Anonymous Coward

great idea 

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All the smut, filth and porn in one loction. Sorted.

Theresa Jayne Forster

Its not just Germany 

Coat

Well what about the British Library, I applied a while ago for a job with the British Library where they are planning to log everything that has ever been published on a .co.uk domain, I assume by screen scraping often.

Frank

Internet? Website? Duh! 

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"..The library had indeed in 2006 been mandated by the government to "collect web publications" and fine the uncooperative..."

Hey German Library people, if somebody 'publishes' something on a website, you can see it using a browser. If you can see it using a browser then you can take a copy. You can automate this process with widely available website stripper/copiers. You can even develop your own web stripper/copier if you want to boost your development budget.

It's this thing called the internet and the world wide web. You can even look at things outside Germany if you want to and you might get interested in collecting copies. If you do, don't try threatening foreign web-publishers with fines, they'll just laugh at you.

Frumious Bandersnatch

you can't hast everything 

Joke

where would you put it?

Anonymous Coward

Great name 

Happy

"Robert Basic"

That is all.

Anonymous Coward

Won't go back even for cash. 

Go

What happened to copyright?

Someone

Re: Internet? Website? Duh! 

Frank, you’re making the Phormesque mistake of assuming web and public are equivalent. What about all the private, password-protected stuff? Denmark’s solution is different. Rather than require submissions, the libraries have access to the passwords!

http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article584315.ece

Anonymous Coward

odd 

Curiously reminiscent of http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40076

Cris E

Or, hey, help them to death 

Just have everyone bundle up their entire site each day and send it all in. At once. Every day. Maybe include a few other choice morsels for posterity, like say all their vacation pictures and maybe an old SUSE distro and some Win2K updates and 200MB of random text. At any rate, be careful what you ask for: "All" can be Pretty Big (and really useless.)

Frank

@Someone re. Re. Internet?..... 

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I certainly don't confuse 'web' and 'public' since I do have my own non-public information tucked away in a sub-domain of my own website.

It is very reasonable for a national library to take and store copies of any published document (I see it as part of their job). However, the key point here is the word 'publication'. (Notice the structure - PUBLICation). I don't consider web based storage of private and limited access data as 'publication'

I followed the link you gave and was horrified by what seems to be happening in Denmark. If this is the route that Germany is taking (apparently not but maybe 'not yet') then I'm sure that the UK will not be far behind, if they aren't already secretly in front.

If this is followed through then who will feel comfortable storing information on an internet connected web-server?

Chris C

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"What happened to copyright?"

Let's ask Google. After all, most people were happy when Google announced they would be scanning every book they could get their grubby fingers on, thereby infringing the authors' copyright by scanning, storing, and indexing the books in their entirety. Somehow, even though Google was scanning the books in their entirety, thereby making a complete digital COPY of the books, some people think COPYRIGHT law doesn't apply. Go figure.

Frank Gerlach

Denmark, Germany .... 

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I always thought Germany to be the Gold Standard of Authoritarian seizures (Wolfgang Schäuble Trojan etc), but it appears the Danish are even worse....

If I have to be sodomized, please conceal it, so that I am not aware of it all the time. Why on earth is everybody so explicit nowadays ? 10000 Euro fines, Passwords delivered, No Such Agency running www.nsa.gov, www.mi5.gov.....

I guess it all has to do with electronic porn. Even the government thinks it must be pornographic in the way it conducts its nasty businesses.....