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Posted Friday 21st November 2008 17:15 GMT
That's the trouble with viruses - they don't respond to antibiotics.
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 16:20 GMT
A very careful phrase that.
Systems hosting the records are accessed over the network that was broken by worm infestation, using desktop computers which are, surely, Windows PCs of which some were infected by that worm.
The management of the NHS often criticise doctors for not being as open and forthright about what happens when something goes wrong as would be ideal, but the particular ones quoted don't impress me as showing an example.
Anonymous? You might very well think that.
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 17:15 GMT
That's the trouble with viruses - they don't respond to antibiotics.
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 19:34 GMT
As long as this sort of sh*t happens, people like me will have jobs.
This reminds me of my high school's computer network when I was in my senior year (year 12 for the Brits). Announcement over the PA: "All staff, please turn off your computers, there is a virus loose in the network."
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 19:34 GMT
This is what happens when you choose an architecture based on what would look good on your resume or what seems to be most popular.
For this sort of essential service, with high volumes of data, they should use mainframe computers running tried and true z/OS.
It is nonsense to try to use the error filled and virus-vulnerable Windows, Unix, Linux oir MacOS systems for such essential services and high volumes of data.
Posted Saturday 22nd November 2008 02:43 GMT
unfortunately the NHS practice of employing M$tards will keep backfiring.
paying administrators who cannot use the command line is like employing doctors who haven't been to medical school.
Posted Saturday 22nd November 2008 19:22 GMT
smack in the middle of the news, I was. The staff seemed to be able to cope. It wasn't all that exciting really.
Posted Sunday 23rd November 2008 22:21 GMT
Even though they must have been using old windows boxes that are more prone to being infected, how the hell did they manage that?
Are people using these systems for emails or web browsing or something?
Does someone know more about this, as to how such a system is possible to infect in the first place?
Posted Sunday 23rd November 2008 22:21 GMT
...and the majority of the machines I saw were running Win2000, which says a lot...
Posted Monday 24th November 2008 10:44 GMT
Yeah, it says contrary to popular opinion the NHS doesn't actually waste that much money on things it doesn't need?
Win2k SP4 is the absolute oldest desktop OS your going to find as anything else is to old to run the apps required.
I don't know what the situation at this particular hospital is, however the trust I work at does have web browsing and email on desktops like pretty much every business in existence. At the end of the day, System one, EMIS or Synergy are just apps like most companies accounting systems or whatever accessing a server.
Posted Monday 24th November 2008 10:44 GMT
Pretty much the only way a virus could do that much damage is if the computers run Windows. Obviously no one would put patient records on a Windows computer for obvious reasons...
Hang on a minute, I am using some Windows software which the company lists the NHS as a customer.
Posted Monday 24th November 2008 10:44 GMT
@Keith T - And the zOS systems are accessed how? An dumb terminal? Err, not for a long time, they'll be accessed by a Windows or Linux box. There will still be email, there will still be attachments, there are still requirements for office apps.
@B Johnson - This is nothing to do with MS stystems, this is to do with underfunding and bad design. Also, you do realise that you can do anything at the command line that you can through the GUI don't you? Any Windows administrator half worth his salt will have a command line up most of the time. In fact, windows 2008 comes with a 'no gui' option.
Posted Monday 24th November 2008 10:44 GMT
They use the same machines for everything, as do people virtually everywhere.
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