Lively? #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 11:35 GMT
Well, its the first i've ever heard of it. Nice marketing job guys.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 11:35 GMT
Well, its the first i've ever heard of it. Nice marketing job guys.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 11:41 GMT
If Lively had Viagra, Vitoria's Secret, Ann Summers, Private and Rampant Rabbit ads then it would have been a knuckle-shuffling success!
Paris, she's neither virtual or virtuous.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 11:54 GMT
I recently dumped a HUGE number of Sims 'virtual land' in Second Life and quit the game due in part to the continued incompetence of Linden Lab. There are so many fundamental deficiences I wouldn't know where to begin. Uninstalling Second Life after two years was a breathe of fresh air! I haven't looked back for a microsecond.
R.I.P Lively.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:04 GMT
Ok, so it's a negative story - something is closing down, didn't live up to expectations etc etc, but do you have to take such a negative tone in your journalism, or rather, 'reporting'?
Describing the current economic downturn as a 'clusterfxxk' is just base, playground level articulation and reveals the level of your intellect.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:04 GMT
"after two years" Oh, the irony.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:08 GMT
"Despite its famous corporate hubris, Google didn't have the Ponzi-esque cojones to flog "virtual land" to gullible strategy boutiques and people in unhappy marriages, as Linden Lab does in Sadville."
Classic!
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:11 GMT
Yeah the deficiencies must have been *very* fundamental to keep you on there for 2 years :p
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:55 GMT
"Clusterfuck" (as in ...to the poor house") appears to be good enough for the Daily Show, so why not here?
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:55 GMT
I would have expected at least Google to get a clue and offer VR as a form of Virtual Office. They had the technical resources to do that. There is a big market for that especially with all the restrictions companies have placed on travel during the downturn.
However, instead of creating something useful they did a "me-too" and provided participants no means of secure link, no means of purchasing walled garden environment and most importantly, they did not grant the participants full IP rights on anything they create in the VR.
Without these, the corporations are not likely to try to use a VR as a VO anytime soon and not surprisingly the sole VR we will have will be Sadville with its sad marriages between people who need extra-wide doors in their houses for the rare occasions when the inhabitants need to get out.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:55 GMT
"Describing the current economic downturn as a 'clusterfxxk' is just base, playground level articulation and reveals the level of your intellect."
But very accurate indeed.
Personally I'd have been more alliterative and used the term: "Credit Clusterfxxk" but there again, that's just personal taste, or lack thereof.
Paris?
Well cluster whatever.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 13:17 GMT
"Are [people with niche sexual interests] likely to be a target for major advertisers? Erm, no"
Et pourquoi non?
Heinz ketchup
Unilever Vaseline
Swarfega
Mars Pedigree Petfoods
Taser International, Inc.
I could go on...
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 13:50 GMT
I'm happy with the phrase "current economic clusterfuck" .... seems to sum up where we are fairly accurately.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 13:50 GMT
So you're saying that Google doesn't think there isn't a pot of gold there? Well, that's OK then.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 14:52 GMT
Just had a look at this "lively" thing... and would you believe it...
"Requires Windows Vista/XP with Internet Explorer or Firefox "
So, no Chrome support then? When will the corporate world realise these virtual worlds are not a long term strategy to make money. Places like sadville just make a few people rich by exploiting the vulnerable and stupid idiots out there. Linden Labs claime to have something like 2 million accounts... but I think they're including the 1.99 million people like me that created and account, ran around a laggy world for 10 minutes and then uninstalled it.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 16:01 GMT
No, no, I think this is one of the best articles I've seen on TheRegister in quite some time. Everyone knew that Lively was badly done, Chris Williams does a great job of presenting the facts (or let's say prevailing opinion) in a humorous yet cynical way. Excellent job CW. :)
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 17:14 GMT
...and it was rubbish. Barely an alpha, let alone a beta. And I speak as someone who doesn't have a knee-jerk reaction against virtual worlds.
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 18:32 GMT
Was it good for you too?
So now that Google has had its way with the users, it just abandons them? No tender words? No postplay? Just a few screen shots to remember what they had together?
Cue the flying penises!
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 20:48 GMT
Quite untrue. You had to download a Windows-only browser plugin, which had this terribly annoying habit of making sure that I always had a URL shortcut to lively.com on my desktop (which it would recreate every day).
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 01:23 GMT
as well. I am on google sites all the time, and I didn't get any notification :)
VRML is what was proposed in the past, and normally these things require some sort of addon.
But, if they ain't going to talk about it, then I guess no one is going to use it. If the thing is any good, I would have spent an hour or so looking into it.
Screw it, I am off there now to check it out, still have till the end of the year to give it a whirl.
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 17:05 GMT
..would be for everyone to sign up so they think there's sudden demand and announce to keep it going. Then all cancel our accounts on January 01, 2009 :-)