Spacewalking astronaut drops toolbag
Anonymous Coward
Makes a change... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:16 GMT

...from "it fell off the back of a lorry"
Anonymous Coward
Woman drops the "ball" #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:16 GMT
Oh great! Send a woman into space and what does she do? Drops her tool bag when startled by a greese gun discharge, thus derailing a multi-million dollar project. I wonder if she would have dropped her purse in a similar circumstance. Did she urinate in her suit? Either way, now the universe has yet more floating trash and our country, in the name of "equality" (what a joke) and equal opportunity, has yet another failed mission.
I wasn't impressed or convinced forty years ago and neither am I now. Equal rights? How about equal responsibility, ability, experience, judgement, cool under pressure, proven track record and substance before demands for equality?
Andy
$title #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

If it had had Gucci embroided onto it, I bet she wouldn't have let go so easily!
Paris, cos... oh what the hell...
Neil Hoskins
A colleague remarks... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

"She'd have kept tighter hold of it if had been her bloody makeup bag."
Personally, I reckon the video shows that she was in a flap at having the mucky yucky stuff on her nice new gloves.
Yorkshirepudding
why not #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

just wait for the next orbit?*
or tie them on next time doy!
*yes i know thats scientifically inaccurate but meh
Dan Collett
Could of been worse...... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

they could of let go of a disc full of peoples private data!
ET Credit Fraud anyone?
Gary
If it falls back to Earth #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

Will it be like Grease Lightning?
Darren Sandford
Putting things in to perspective #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

Losing a screw down in some inaccessible area of a computer case doesn't seem so bad now.
Paul
A bit of string? #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

Could NASA not stretch to a bit of string to tie the kit bag to the suit?
I wonder how much ScrewFix charge for delivery :)
Simon C
would that be #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

An Astronomic fail?
/mines the one with the tether to the bag in the first place.
Ash
If NASA are so smart... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

... Why don't they fit lanyards to the space suits?
Anonymous John
I don't understand this at all. #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT
Why wasn't the 30lb tool bag tethered. She surely wasn't working one handed, with the other holding the bag, was she?
Nobody does repair work like that, on Earth or in space.
Anonymous Coward
Well then ... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:19 GMT

That'll be beers. At least two rounds, I reckon.
And what is it with women and tools? At least she didn't take her makeup bag out there by mistake ......
Secretgeek
Space pr0n #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT

I'd like to whip the blankets from her berthing mechanism, move my flex hose rotary coupler and release my grease into her crew lock bag.
Fnarr fnarr.
Oh dear, I've disgraced myself again.
Coat please.
It wasnt me
Did you see the video? #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT
It was really funny. I know i'll be in trouble for this, but what the hell. The seconds immediately prior to the daft bint offloading the toolbox looked exactly like a lost lippy rifle through the handbag type panic.
No respect for toolboxes, and no use with a grease gun. Would have been better at making tea.
Chris Pearson
Expensive mistake? #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT
Tools are expensive and on earth that tool bags probably worth about £50. Stick NASA on the tools and I bet it's a damn sight more? Was this a million dollar tool box?
Mike Westmacott
Don't let her near the china! #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT
Nice vid of it on the beeb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7736996.stm
Anonymous Coward
Women...know your limits! #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT

Im no sexist and am happy for the little darlings to try their hand at all sorts of manly things......
but this is what happens if you let women into space AND allow them to take their handbags on spacewalks!
Women are forever filling their bags with useless crap, then allowing it to explode out at inopportune moments.....
'grease gun' my arse! space lipstick more like....
Ill get my coat.........
Peyton
I'm somehow left with the image #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT

Of a lady astronaut fumbling through a big, overgrown purse, muttering "now where did I leave that grease gun?!"
Sergie Kaponitovicz
"Dropped" In zero G? #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT

Clever trick - worthy of a Nobel Prize for Fizzwicks!
Lee T.
Would a lanyard be so difficult to arrange? #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 15:26 GMT

i mean really, what's so difficult about tying things to the suit? you could even make it spring-return, like an rfid pass lanyard.
<-attaching the bag to the suit...
Anonymous Coward
I wonder...... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 16:17 GMT
If this woman was friends with Lisa "Pampers" Nowak if memory servers When she was arrested, she was carrying a wig, a steel mallet, some duct tape, and a knife( or as OJ calls it, an overnight bag) Maybe this Astronaut was just helping her friend to ditch evidence, Lets face it if they are not going to be getting it back unless it smashes throught he shuttle next time round.
david
As it floats away I think you can see... #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 17:01 GMT
...some sort of high tech carabiner...
...or it might behalf a pair of handcuffs.
yeah, right.
my oh my #
Posted Wednesday 19th November 2008 17:38 GMT
What a bunch of sexists we have on board here. How can one tell? Replace "woman" with "black" or some other superficial distinguishing factor, then tell me the statements wouldn't be considered racist. Even as a joke it stopped being funny years ago.
And I'll try to refrain from the obvious: http://www.clichequest.com/index.php?pos=328
The person fucked up not because they were a woman, but because they were just too stupid or hurried (as an individual) to attach a tether.
I assume the engineers DID provide a tether for the toolkit? Because if they didn't, then the real fault lies with them. Not to mention creating a grease gun that doesn't work right in a vacuum.
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Alex Brett
Re: Woman drops the "ball" #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 00:56 GMT
"Did she urinate in her suit?"
She will probably have urinated, although probably not quite into her suit. Astronauts spacewalking (and even during launch and reentry) where what is tastefully described as a 'Maximum Absorbency Garment' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Absorbency_Garment), basically an adult nappy to absorb urine (it will absorb faeces as well, although they generally wait until getting back inside to do that)...
Otherwise, it could make it a darn uncomfortable 7 hours or so if you needed a piss after a couple of them!
John Angelico
Losing tools... #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 00:56 GMT
... must mean that space walks and repair jobs are no longer the stuff of amazement and wonder, but merely business as usual.
Hey Stef, did you remember to punch your time card?
Magani
Grease gun? #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 00:56 GMT

What's wrong with the 2 things that keep the universe together - Duct Tape & WD-40?
Think how much NASA could save on tools.
Mine's the one with the spray can on a lanyard.
Moss Icely Spaceport
Space Bags! #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 01:14 GMT

On the starboard bow!
Simon
Wibble #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 01:52 GMT

>Vacuum.Head
I see you share our confidence in women by assuming they are unlikely to have been involved in any of those design testing and planning processes.
Sureo
Poor design? #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 01:52 GMT

Considering the difficulty of maintenance, it might have been a good idea to design this Solar Alpha Rotary Joint to not need a periodic lube job.
Anonymous Coward
@ Sergie Kaponitovicz #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:07 GMT

" "Dropped" In zero G? "
<physics lesson>
But they're not in zero G, in orbit around the Earth. It's the Earth's gravitational field that is KEEPING the shuttle, astronauts and toolbag in orbit, otherwise they would all move in a straight line ...
They are all in freefall (like skydivers) towards the Earth - that's why they APPEAR to be weightless.
</physics lesson>
... with the chalk in the pocket.
It wasnt me
@Sureo #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:07 GMT
"Considering the difficulty of maintenance, it might have been a good idea to design this Solar Alpha Rotary Joint to not need a periodic lube job."
They did. Their design failed. And since banter is no loger allowed here due to the bra-burners getting tetchy, ill get back on script: I expect it was designed by a man. More women in engineering please.
Pascal Monett
A few questions #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:07 GMT
I want to know what the inertial force of this toolbag is.
More to the point, I want to know just how fast that grease gun is going and whether or not it stands a chance of punching a hole through the side of a satellite or the window of the Shuttle in future orbits.
And how long will it take for the lost items to become shootings stars ? The Shuttle works in low Earth orbit if I'm not mistaken - anything that has mass and no means of maintaining its orbit will plunge back down to the surface in due time. So how long for this bag ?
IcerG
Get Real #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 12:07 GMT

OK lets get real here, I am a man and would have to think more than twice before going out on a "spacewalk" never mind having the "balls" to even take lift off in the shuttle. Add that to the fact of fiddling about with handtools in a pair of space gloves, I really think the girl needs some sympathy.
Markie Dussard
@IcerG #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 15:12 GMT

I think the real problem is that most of the commenters on here don't actually know any women.
GFK1
Speeding guns #
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 19:29 GMT
"More to the point, I want to know just how fast that grease gun is going"
From memory, about 17,000Km/hr - a fair bit of inertia then.
Anonymous Coward
Instead of being sexist.... #
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 19:29 GMT
Replace "woman" with "American" in all above posts.
Makes it more accurate and removes any sexism.
Anonymous Coward
@Markie Dussard #
Posted Friday 21st November 2008 19:31 GMT

Yeah, but we've seen pictures of women.
RUF
She screwed up, plain and simple #
Posted Saturday 22nd November 2008 02:30 GMT

She screwed up, plain and simple and acknowledged it - not a big deal. Mistakes happen and this is not gender specific. But she deserves the same criticism if any, that a man would for a similar screw-up. The video clearly shows she forgot about a lack of tethering and whipped out the bag in reflex. Also, everything cannot be tethered, the bag was in a larger envelop that was tethered.