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Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:47 GMT
Excellent article - it made for an interesting read.
Might be nice to hear how/if you think things could be improved...
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:32 GMT
If anyone deserves the title "Defender of Democracy" it's people like PEO Pete that enable people to make their own choices about who they want to be governed by.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:47 GMT
Excellent article - it made for an interesting read.
Might be nice to hear how/if you think things could be improved...
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:55 GMT
Just how stressful is voting in the US? Or is it a case of "I'm voting for Oba*KZZZAAPP*McCain?
Seriously, though, seemed like a good article. Glad to hear of someone enjoying their work!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:55 GMT
Well done.
And I like your idea of using the prime directives to allow you to cut through conflicting priorities.
Sam
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 10:56 GMT
Great article, write a follow-up next week and let us know how it went today.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
Hard work to make sure it doesn't go wrong, and there are oh so many places it can go wrong. Tyranny is much, much easier - at least, at start. :-) Good article.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
As I get ready to go and vote, you remind me of the importance of the act. I cannot thank you enough, even though I'm in MA, for doing *more* than your part to make sure everyone who's eligable to vote, gets to vote.
Keep up the good work, and sleep soundly tonight, knowing that your work is appreciated.
Peter
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
And there is still vote rigging on a massive scale in the largest democracy.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
* More of the same comments above - very good article, thoroughly enjoyed.
* More of the same writer, as suggested, a "round-up" after the fact would be great.
* More of the same type of people, involved in the process!
Robocop. Heh. Like it.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
keep up the excellent and vital work.
Glasses will be raised in your honour tonight.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
What a great article. Your passion for democracy shines through!
Your stories reminded me very much of being a student in South Africa. On 14 April 1994, we had our first multi-racial democratic elections open to all citizens. The queues stretched for kilometers, people came out of their houses to serve drinks to the people waiting.
Real-politik and reality come crashing in after election day, but those moments shine clear with hope and possibility.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
What you do is admirable. Well done. You put the faith back into the farce of what's become of the US election.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 12:43 GMT
That UK elections are staffed with similarly brilliantly people. And in fact that those like Pete outnumber the prejudiced biddies in the US too.
And also that Pete can write more for El Reg!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
very well written. write more!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
Its nice to know that some people really do care about the vote.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
It's great to read a story from people like this. The history books will have XYZ did such and such with his one or two supporters, but at the end of the day it's hard working grass-roots people that make history, without them movements can't happen.
Thanks for the peek into a how the elections work.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
I'm glad to see that someone cares about democracy, and is taking care of those who need help. The idea that someone thinks "just let them mess up the vote if they don't know what they are doing" makes me sick. You give a voice to those who want to change the world, not just to those who have the money, power and education to change the world.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
Great to get some insight into the voting system over there. Thanks for putting in the extra time to inform us about what goes down in the weeks running up to a presidential election. It's no wonder there can be discrepancies and miscounts with the amount of work you guys have to get through.
Take it easy after it's all over, mate. Sounds like you'll need it.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
As someone who urges people to vote I can't thank you enough for making so many things happen smoothly behind the scenes.
I voted with a paper ballot today smoothly and quickly and it's likely thanks to people like you.
Thank you!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
When I grew up in thte UK in the 60's all Americans seemed to me to be like Pete - honest, friendly, decent, practical and full of common sense. I'm sure that even after Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes large chunks of America must still be full of people like him. Hopefully the next election will let these people shine.
Lovely article Pete and like everybody else here I hope you write a follow up.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
What a deeply moving article. Democracy made real.
Thank you.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
"I had lots of very young, poor black kids at our ghetto site, they'd march in and declare this was their first time voting and they were here to vote for Obama and nobody else. I'd raise a finger to my lips and go "Shh..." and say "we can't talk politics in here, we're just here for the election," and then I'd look them in the eye and wink. They'd burst into a broad smile, they couldn't believe this old white guy, The Man, was on their side, helping them vote. I'd take extra time to explain how the ballot worked. I hope they become lifetime voters, whatever party they choose."
WRONG!!!!! I do not even live in the US, but I know that most electronic voting machines DO not register vote for the president when you select straight party ticket. Thanks a lot for losing a vote for Obama, if Iowa uses one of those machines!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
When I started reading this article, I didn't realise just how much it would draw me in. Turns out to be one of the most fascinating pieces ever to grace the pages of El Reg. Well done, Pete !
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
I was just there 45 minutes ago... Number 17 in line at 6:14AM. That's quite a turnout in a tiny little village of coal miners and farmers. (and one IT geek)
Our 'blue hairs' have retired over the years, and a younger (50-ish) crowd of women have taken their place... They'll have a long day ahead of them. Hats off to them.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:10 GMT
good article and good work, keep it up
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:15 GMT
Thanks Pete. It's good to know that at a fundamental level 'democracy' can and does work.
I'm currently trogging the streets for 2-3 hours every day getting people to complete their electoral register forms (so they can take part in our own impending circus of fools) and a small compensation is the thought that every person that completes their form is another one that can choose to take part in deciding just how this country is run.
Sometimes it's difficult to get people to see the power they have and that's why PEO Pete's are needed everywhere that democracy is supposed to be.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:15 GMT
This reminded me very much of Robert Pirsig
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 14:15 GMT
Excellent piece. As this election is for the self appointed "leader of the free world", as a Brit I also have an interest in the process and outcome. I'm glad to see people with principles still doing their bit. Well done and thanx for this highly interesting piece.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 15:17 GMT
...you haven't yet found a minute to vote yet you found hours to write a frickin' 3 page article?
The article was great by the way, but come on, the lack of time to vote whine at the end was... odd to say the least.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 15:22 GMT
It reminds me of the line from Gandhi; "Be the change you want to see in the world".
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 16:59 GMT
Pete can only vote at his assigned location and the polls are not open 24 hours a day. He works a full shift helping others vote at other voting locations, then can't make it to his assigned location to vote - then spends hours of time after the polls are closed to write things up and tell us about it.
Thumbs up for all the folks doing their best to make the elections run smoothly.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 16:59 GMT
Pete, I voted last Saturday at the First Avenue Hy-Vee in Iowa City and I thank you for making this election such a breeze with early satellite voting. My regular polling place is at City High School, and for the primaries we had people standing in the hall because there literally was no room left to stand in the cafeteria. If we had not been given the opportunity to vote early I am sure that the lines today would be unbearable.
I was sure to thank the poll workers when I voted and I thank you as well. Next time I vote I'll be sure to bring along something for you or your fellow PEO's to snack on.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 16:59 GMT
Well done to Pete for this work, and this splinter of autobiography. Update requested afterwards.
Well done also to whoever thought to solicit the article.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 17:11 GMT
I realise that the colonies decided to become independent, but they might consider retaining some of our voting rules:
"could take their absentee ballot to Boss Tweed, mark it in his presence and seal the envelope in front of him, then he could give the payoff and drop it in the mail for the voter"
In the UK, absentee ballots are cast in advance of the election. Having given your ballot you are still permitted to vote at a polling station, invalidating the absentee vote. I realise that is an imperfect safeguard.
Another safeguard is perhaps of more relevance in areas where people try to frustrate voter registration. UK voters are required by law to register, although they are not compelled to vote. While we may take that rule for granted, it would be a valuable safeguard in certain parts of the US, where people try to disenfranchise certain voters.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:37 GMT
My mother-in-law used to be a poll worker in Seattle. She happened to be a Republican, in a Democrat-leaning area. This made her very valuable, because certain activities had to be supervised by workers affiliated with two different parties (to prevent hanky-panky don'tcha know). She was very proud of how hard the poll workers worked to provide a fair and honest election.
I love the grand inefficiency of elections. We can determine the outcome with a statistical sample of a few thousand eligible voters, but that's not how we do things. We build an immense machine to run flat out for a single day (yeah, I know about early voting, it's a metaphor), then tear it down. The inefficiency is as necessary as liberty, and as beautiful.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:38 GMT
Just adding to the list of people who enjoyed this article, very informative, and very well written.
A follow up would be greatly appreciated.
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:38 GMT
Pete, I salute you! Without people like you, democracy would grind to a halt under the weight of it's own bureaucratic bulk!
I'm interested to know though, I suspect you either know Bill Bryson or are him because, well Iowa and the writing style, seems similar; I like it anyway! If you be not he then you should be added to the rolls of praiseworthy and 'famous' Iowans! Keep up the good work and I hope you never need that defibrilator!
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:38 GMT
That was great. Thanks a lot for the great article and the even greater work. Top notch stuff.
And yes, a follow up would be greatly appreciated too. And I'm not even American either, although I do live in VA. :-)
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:38 GMT
"WRONG!!!!! I do not even live in the US, but I know that most electronic voting machines DO not register vote for the president when you select straight party ticket."
What the electronic voting machines do depends on the state laws for straight party voting. In some states, if you select straight party and then mark a preference for one partisan race*, that invalidates the straight party selection and then only your votes in specific races count. In others, the straight party selection is a default for all the partisan races where you don't vote, even if you do express specific preferences in some of them.
(Full disclosure: I learned this from being paid to proofread a manual for an electronic voting machine a couple times. If you think that pays a lot, consider me a paid lackey of the e-voting industry.)
*Note for readers outside the US: Adding another layer of complexity, only some of the races on the ballot will allow party endorsements. Generally your city- and county-level offices are nonpartisan elections, and your state and federal ones are partisan (with the notable exception in many states of judicial posts).
Posted Tuesday 4th November 2008 21:39 GMT
Contrary to the article Obama's dead grandmother's advance vote will count. "Kevin Cronin, the Chief Elections Officer, confirmed that Mrs Dunham's absentee ballot, which was received on October 27, would count towards Mr Obama's final tally."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3380630/Barack-Obamas-grandmother-cast-ballot-in-one-of-her-final-acts.html
Great article except for this.
Posted Wednesday 5th November 2008 01:17 GMT
Just make every voter mark every box. I don't know why they don't do that already, is it really such a hardship to tick "DEM DEM DEM DEM DEM DEM" instead of pulling a single lever?