This is all part of the scheme to sell ID Cards to everyone else

"Home Office research shows that binge drinking, knife-wielding gangs of feral hoodies (AKA yoofs) are terrified that the introduction of the ID card scheme will interfere with their granny terrorising, car-stealing, e-popping lifestyles."

As much as I like that, I'm not sure she is whacky, more cold, controlling and manipulative. When 42 days was revoked she said something along the lines of "Some people don't take the security of Britian seriously." Surely that is for the benefit of Daily Mail readers who will lap it up? One wonders wether she takes human rights seriously.

Aside from that, this is encouraging, The whole point of that site was to influence the yoof and say how positivily they responded. Its great to see that those who took part, blew it right back in her face. If I want proof of Age etc, I'll use my driving licence, why would I bother with a seperate card - aside from privacy issues.

a report that maintains that "youths" support it despite all the contradictory evidence, or a report that claims the involvement of outside parties has rendered the whole affair useless and wasted the taxpayer's money.

And then for Jaqui Smith to demand IP addresses of everyone who used the website so that they can be monitored for national security purposes.

"The requirement to register to post on the boards didn't stop the No2ID crowd gettting involved"

Home Secretary: "Darn! How do they keep getting on when we have their email address and have banned it from registering? It's a little like that other offender register we have, and the security / tracking measures we have in place on that too. Foolproof! I just don't understand!"

Mine's the one with the long list of alternate email addresses.

I went to post on the site this morning and everything was gone... I expected at least something to still be accessible!

Just to alert any ex-members - i've just set up a blog at www.id-watch.co.uk for us to continue debating ID cards, and analyse virtual surveys' response and the government reaction. All are welcome.

This isn't over yet...

'deepspacemillar'

They closed down the site because they asked a simple question, and got an overwhelming response that they did not like. All that does is tells us that the government is still not "listening", and the attempt to hide the results just makes them look even more ignorant and autocratic than they did before.

If they really want to stand any chance of re-election, they really do need rid of Jacqui Smith - we, the people you are supposed to represent, are overwhelmingly against almost everything she suggests - 42 day detention, ID cards, or massive tracking databases.

As one of the posters on the site put it so succinctly - "Do Not Want" (and no kitteh in sight!)

I have absolutely NO IDEA why people trot that line out.

a) It doesn't mean malice isn't the reason, else malice would never be proven (and libel laws useless)

b) It is actually WORSE if it is incompetence in many cases. If it were malice, you could improve the system. If it's incompetence you've got a looooong hill to climb to fix it. If you're even allowed

So stop with that quote. It's neither useful nor helpful.

It's the current Nu Liebour cabinet that are making "Ministerial Intelligence" an oxymoron.

What they'll do is take a quote from the site that is anti ID cards, shove it into an anagram generator and see if they can re-use the letters to generate something positive. That way it's the original quote slightly edited to fit the publication.

seems to me the obtuse bitch got EXACTLY what she asked for - and didn't like what she saw.

You owe me a new keyboard, as that comment caused this one to suddenly be filled with coffee.

Re: the request for new El Reg icons.

Can we have a keyboard+coffee icon please, as a shorthand, so that the old joke doesn't need trotting/typing out quite so often.

glad i didn't have a mouthful of anything when i read your post. Thanks...haven't laughed that hard all day and this topic isn't even funny...

why am I all wet?

the answer machine is more like: leave a message if you must, but don't count on us to listen to your loony ravings since we already know all the facts.

@ac - Lets have an enquiry into the War...."my folks have looked into this and find nothing wrong, thank you. Please move along. Nothing to see here."

I don't know about the people who read the paper version of the Daily Mail but if you read the posts on bothe the Daily Mail and the Daily Express on this sort of police state crap you will see they are pretty much the same opinion as on The Reg and my Life my ID.

Does this mean that the vast majority of people don't post online and only a few do and those all hold the same negative opinion of the ID scheme?

Obviously to check this I talk to real people I meet. It seems that most people are a bit twitchy about something that's going on in the world. People have connected stuff like bees dieing to GM crops not needing pollination. I don't know if that's the case but this person was cirtainly tuned into lots of things.

There is some much blatent crap coming out of governmental authorities and their hangers on (Virtual Surveys, Parish Councils, Health and Safety Officers) that people are becoming incredulus.

Take the crap about high blood pressure. The figure for high blood pressure keeps getting lowered. Then people need to take statins to keep it under control. Big Pharma, surely?

Today a policeman told me they can't trace a mobile phone call that just happened but they could in future monitor my mobile phone if they thought it nessasary. I mean, come on!

http://wikileaks.org/leak/nis-options-analysis-outcome.pdf

Page 4, third bullet point from the bottom:

"Universal compulsion should not be used unless absolutely necessary. It cannot be delivered quickly due to the need for inevitably controversial and time consuming primary legislation and would pose serious political, enforcement and resource challenges"

That's my favourite bit. Visions of random roadblocks with full body cavity search authorisation, armed pigs nicking people who don't have their wallets on them. With the friendly public order enforcement chopper hovvering protectively overhead... For your safety.

What web site? we never setup a web site for the yoof? no the yoof love ID cards, check out my stats form madeupstatsforthegov.com, it proves i'm right and if you don't like it i have a DB of all yours comms think a fishing trip to see what i can pin on you will find?

mines the police state cell third from the left.

Also taken from the Wikileaks document....

"There will be an ID card. The nature of the card issued should be proportionate to the services that the user wishes to access. People wishing to access services with a higher demand for integrity will be issued with a higher integrity card, and vice versa."

Does this mean that there are different 'grades' of ID cards and thus variant levels of citizenship? Are we talking about Bronze, Silver, Gold & Platinum ID cards indicating the 'level of services' that you have access to?!

Or perhaps they will adopt a greek alphabet naming convention? Alpha, Beta, Delta, etc.

Brave New World anyone?

Sign up to NO2ID now, folks, and be ready to burn your cards in the street!

"the site being only for 16-25 year olds."

How did they check that?

BREAKING NEWS - Government statistic turns out to be wrong

(London - UK)

A statistic previously published by the government has turned out to be completely unreflective of reality, sources claim. A survey that actually asked for the public's opinion (in a rare moment of democracy presumably leaked by the government) shows that people don't agree with what the government say they should.

Government sources are reportedly annoyed that the people didn't swallow their crap as they'd hoped, but said they will be continuing to make it up as they go along in the future in order to enact policies that they know the public hate, especially if the policy is ill-conceived, pointless, and/or a waste of money.

Said minister Davide Bl'Unquette, "This is a disappointing day for us. We have tried to con the public, and they showed that they do actually have brains after all. We know that ID cards will do nothing for the country, but we will continue to press the point as we need to find something to do with the money."

IGMC.

Well done; You've just saved Jaqui another £50k on spinning the results.

Good work you're doing to HELP the scheme along there, pal!

Those with Platinum, Gold or Silver cards go through the clean door. The rest of you go through the dirty door marked 'Showers' with the chimney spouting black smoke.

Lots of love Jacqboot Smidt.

and yer lucky you didn't git your hide tanned, along the way.

oooo - is it time for a spanking ?

Jesus Christ! I've shat things prettier than that!

Is it just me or does anyone else think that at least one of Jacqui Smith's parents must have been a potato?

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00025/Jacqui-Smith_25769t.jpg

The Home Office sent us the following statement: "Key findings will be published once all the data has been analysed. The written research findings will be published on the IPS website. This qualitative report will explain the range of views expressed on the site, the structure of those views, and will illustrate what underpins the hopes and fears expressed by the participants."®

God help us all.

Or, in case you want to put your trust in something real, find out how guns and bullets are made and get out there in your garage, 'cause pretty soon you're gonna need 'em if this lot aren't ousted. And don't think Cameron will be any different or do any repealing of laws or regressing of powers, 'cause he won't. He ain't even promising to.

If one politician stood up tomorrow and said I'll run for Prime Minister and we'll pretend 9/11 never happened and just get on with life as we were doing in 2001 pre-Bush, and I'll stop all this made up terrorist nonsense and surveillance bullshit, and take down all the speed cameres apart from the ones distinctly absent from outside most schools??, etc. What's that you hear? 60,000,000 people rushing to the poll booths chanting "Please get us out of this madness!!!!"

I like the lewinsky: Whacky Jacqui - very good. I think we need a campaign similar to that of the Turnip Head photo of Graham Taylor. Whacky Jacqui, eyes bulging, spliff hanging out of her mouth, in a Nazi get up for preference, spewing incoherent gibberish. I'll have to knock something up and stick it on youtube.

And we definitely need a Whacky Jacqui icon so that we can attach it to any half-baked, loony comment, (like this one), in the future.

of course yoofs don't want id cards!

If everyone had an id card there'd be no getting away with a crudely laminated pseudo college id for getting booze on the underage.