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A 15-year-old Ohio girl was arrested on felony child pornography charges for allegedly sending nude cell phone pictures of herself to classmates. Authorities are considering charging some of the students who received the photos as well. The unnamed student from Licking Valley High School in Newark, Ohio was arrested Friday after …

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Coat

riiiight

so she offended herself? well maybe she could also sue herself to make a bit of $$

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Coming to a country near you

Complete stupidity, nanny state , inability for people in power to think .

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Unhappy

What criminal tools?

> Charges include ... possession of criminal tools

WTF are the "criminal tools"? A cellphone? My country is such a bunch of fucktards. I'm so embarrassed by it, I say "aboot" and "eh?" a lot and tell people I'm Canadian.

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... That's a shame.

...That's a shame (think of this Seinfeld-style.)

Yes, these rules are rather broken in some of the US. People have also gotten the whole "sexual offender" label slapped on here for public urination in a few cases.. someone's too drunk and pissing on a bush or whatever, instead of getting public urination and public drunkeness (some fines and probably a night in the drunk tank..) they get this. Then they get caught up in the other laws set up for actual perverts, so they can't live in a lot of areas, etc.

Hopefully they'll be more reasonable on this, I mean, they've certainly had the scare put into them, I'm sure they're not going to send each other any more nudie pics.

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Joke

umm...

"Licking" county? Are you kidding me?

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Prosecute those who received the pics ?

So you get a text, possibly unwanted, and get prosecuted ? Maybe she should have sent on to GW Bush and it would have been interesting to see if they nab Dubya.

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Licking prosecutors suck

I don't see how someone can be too young to consent to sexual behavior (e.g. being photographed nude) but old enough that their actions can have such long term criminal consequences.

If you can try them as adults, then they should implicitly have the right or ability to consent.

If they don't have the ability to consent, convict them as juveniles, and seal the court records and let them the criminals go free when they're 18.

Or even better yet, the prosecutors should go about trying to reduce violent crime.

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Coat

That can't be the school's name...

"Licking Valley", sounds like a porn training school, so you would expect this to happen.

Mine's the 'flashing' mac with the stains...

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shhhh dont tel Gordon

No doubt Zanu Labour will have it in place by next week. Probably linked up to their new super database, CCTV, new speed cameras etc etc... You have been warned.

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Coat

Licking Valley?

What did they expect!

Oh, and I think I should be up on charges for sexually abusing a 15 year old boy. That 15 year old being myself of course 15 years ago.

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If I Didn't Laugh, I'd Cry

<insert profanities here>

OK, now that I've vented ... if this isn't the most ridiculous misuse of a legal statute then it must be awfully close. What's next? A 15-year old looks in a bathroom mirror at his or her naked self and is booked for putting in a pornographic display involving a child?

I have travelled to and within the US in the past, but with this, the Patriot Act and related matters, I think I will resolve never to go there again. (Apologies to the minority - intelligent and reasonable people - who are stuck there).

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Where?

"Licking County"? Really? -- snicker --

PH because... well...

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Paris Hilton

Licking Valley, eh?

Egads, teenagers engaging in elicit activities? I'm shocked and appalled. I used to think that prosecuting those responsible for meth labs or domestic violence was important, but now that this has been brought to light... well, good on 'em for taking up this fight.

Also, am I the only one sniggering at the name "Licking Valley" in the context of the article?

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Conkers

It all starts with the bloody PC Brigade stopping children playing conkers.

See where it ends up.

What utter, utter stupidity.

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Next thing you know...

They will convict my parents of taking (I'm talking about 55 years ago) pictures me while in my crib. I seem to recall that there is one where the slat (placed too far apart for todays standards!) is strategically placed in the photograph (chemical based, not digital). They even got it processed with no complaints. I doubt that it would always go through in today's environment!

p.s. I was about 1.5 years old at the time.

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It's just a short step now

to charging any wanker under the age of consent with rape.

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@AC re: If I Didn't Laugh, I'd Cry

Feel free to stay (presumably) in the country where - everywhere - (not just in some little asshole jurisdiction) ANYONE can be charged and jailed for having the wrong kind of porn, you can be jailed for writing a naughty short story, and you'll be videotaped and have your car tracked even if you avoid all of the above.

I'll take this. At least this (incredibly stupid) crap tends to get weeded out when it gets to the supreme court, since we put that whole 'constitution' thing in. You might want to give it a try.

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Its just occurred to me

If kids in that county ever play doctor they will be locked up for life .

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@ Chris

Snickering, yes. Personally I chortled heartily.

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"and tell people I'm Canadian."

It's no better up here. Entirely fictional under-age porn is illegal in Canada. You can be (and people have been) prosecuted for possessing a cartoon depicting (arguably - not the least absurd point of the legislation in question is determining the age of a completely fictional entity) under-age sex. Yep, a cartoon. No real people involved at any point.

Let's face it, most of 'the western world' is entirely insane when it comes to anything related to private parts.

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Licking Valley?

Are we bein Punk'd?

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rant & rave

OK, this is just out of control and after a serious intraspective, I'm moving out of Ohio to Alabama or Mississippi, where the people seem to have a little more common sense.

I've been to Licking County, and given the humorous nature of this article, it's not nearly as exciting there as ones imagination might, well, might imagine.

That leads me to the next issue to ponder, however I feel like I should invoke the 5th amendment, as I wasn't even born when all of the following events were set in motion. There is a little town in the northwest corner of Ohio called Findlay (it's actually pronounced fin-lee), which happens to be in Hancock county. To add insult to injury, the local high-school's mascots are "The Trojans", and the local college's mascot is an "Oiler".

When viewed completely out of context, and given peoples pervicidal (c) tendancies, this community, all if its citizens and two learning institutions are a recepie for disaster, (metaphorically, fucked) in a court of law.

Once again, while pondering this entire sad event (sad, because until recently, I was reasonably content living in Ohio), it caused me to think of a way to capitolize on the sheer lunacy that has invaded the US legal system.

Fact: I am semi-management.

Fact: I am in charge of my department

Fact: I am the only employee in my department

Fact: I am responsible for writing my own job performance reviews

Fact: I am my own supervisor, as my actual supervisor is almost 200 miles away and may see 2 or 3 times a year...

Hypothetical: If I use the restroom during working hours, can I sue myself and the company for sexual harassment and inappropriate contact? Suing myself is a lost cause as I really don't have a pot to piss in, so to speak, but the company has really deep pockets.

So, in theory, I could retire with millions in compensation, after doing 3-5 years in prison.

Mine is the one with "lighten up" on the back

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Now all we need...

...is for some 16 year olds to text indecent pictures of themselves to all the lawyers. Guilty of receiving an image - like you had a choice?!

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On a stick

I suppose at this day and date it would be unacceptible to put the heads of the government officials involved in this on a stick and parade them through town?

Next thing you know, they'll be charging every 14 year old that masterbates with child molestation, and woe to any parent that catches them!

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No, seriously?

You have to be kidding. A 16-yo girl sent nude pics to here fellow Licking Valley students. My Leisure Suit Larry sense is tingling like crazy.

On other news, "man convicted for attempted first degree murder after suicide failure". Coming to you courtesy of Big Brother. Here is your receipt for your husband, and here is my receipt, for your receipt.

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Baby pics?

"parents jailed for Facebook baby pornography"

"Michelangelo winged underage nude pics censored"

"12-yo babysitter jailed for bathing a nude 2-yo"

"6 grader jailed for carving sexually explicit representations of his female teacher on his table -teacher under investigation"

"teenager caught masturbating jailed for underage sex"

Print this post, and stick it on your fridge. You'll be less flabbergasted when you'll actually read these headlines in the Daily Mail (or when you'll watch them on Fox News).

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Ridiculous religious prudery.

Does anybody else hear a the faint echoes of people with pitchforks shouting "She's a witch, BURN her!"

Stupid.

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@Chris O'Dewd

Those attempting suicide would get the electric chair for attempted 1st degree murder...

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good ol days

theres always 1 square

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porn?

silly law aside - theres another thing at stake here ... ownership of your own image !

its surely up to her if she wants to take pics of herself , though there may be some sort of "harrassment" case if the recipients of this picture complain, but thats about it.

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hahahah

Licking Valley..hahahahahha it couldn't be made up could it?

I find the name of the area offensive, can I sue them for pornography by implication???

This is so stupid and PC gone exceptionally mad, whatever next? Please, please, any Americans on here, do not vote the Republicans back in!!

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Re: What criminal tools? @Gene Cash

Maybe her bulgarian airbags were of such a considerable size as to consider them lethal.

On a more serious note...

...once again the whole world laughs loudly at America.

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Jobs Horns

Err, wait a second

So what they're saying is I can put anyone I want in jail just by sending them a naughty email...?

Mwahhahahahahah

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Window Lickers

Just another story that convincves me more that it's just a nation of window lickers...these kids are teenagers, this sort of thing is what teenagers do, esepcially when they have been told not to! So now the punishment for the rest of this girls life is to be on a sex offenders register, who did she violate in this case when she was sending pictures of HERSELF....no really they are a nation of window lickers!

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Coat

Hmm, I smell a business opportunity

I'll go dance nekkid in front of as many of those cctv cameras I can find, then sue the owner for producing and storing pornography. Oh, and follow them Google StreetView cars around.

Mine's the one with the A-Z in the pocket

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Freedom of expression

I'm disgusted. Every kid goes through a phase of show me yourr and I'll show you mine.... What's so wrong?

And surely as the pics are of herself, taken by herself, there's an overriding staute allowingt his as freedom of expression.....

US INjustice strikes again

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What's next?

Why not make mirrors illegal? You can see your self in them!?!

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Torn

As a "responsible" adult who fears the government I damn this girl for her evil evil ways! (Christian enough?)

As a former teenaged guy, I'm a little pissed off only yuppies had cell phones back in those days and there certainly was no MMS.

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Paris Hilton

16 Year old nudie pics?

giggity giggity giggity goo, awwriiight.....

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I couldn't decide...

Which was better - Licking Valley or Licking County. My Viz-sense was prickling and the FnarrFnarr-ometer went off the scale!

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Only in America

I guess she'd have been let off if she was waving a gun about at the same time.

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In other news...

Children are to be blindfolded whilst taking a shower so they don't corrupt themselves with their own nudity.

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@David Wiernicki

Sounds like you think I'm in the UK. I'm not. But I've been there plenty of times, too, and have no plans of going there again either, although it's still not as hostile to (legal) visitors as the USA, IMHO.

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re: rant & rave

Whether you get anywhere with your lawsuit depends amongst other things on the law relating to vicarious liability. I don't know about the US, but in the UK the doctrine of Vicarious Liability can be roughly summed up as "The Employer (usually the body corporate) is liable for the sins of the Employee". You would have to dodge the counter argument of Contributory Negligence, but I could see it becoming quite an entertaining case when it gets to court. Especially as the US legal system does seem to have taken leave of its senses!

Let us all know when you get a court date, and I'm sure we could arrange for a band of supporters to take ringside seats in the public gallery!

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inverse twat-o-tron aside

While it pains me to point this out, allowing wiggle room for recording ero ero activities between fully consenting minors, somewhat removes the justifications for the cudgel of family friendly legislation when a consenting minor and not quite minor get caught doing the same thing.

If they acknowledged that minor a (as in this case) has some right to be nud' at any point in time for any reason (to extend a bit), there is some twisted logic that could apply it to an imbalanced age relationship, and that would have the think of the children brigade up in arms.

Almost feel sorry for those poor legislators, who in the interests of representing the will of the vocal majority, have to go to such bizarre lengths.

almost, but not.

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Whereas ...

... if it had been entirely ignored it would have been another teenage "prank" that would have been rapidly forgotten. Now the poor girl has to live with this for the rest of her life.

Perhaps they law enforcement agencies would be better employed rounding up the greedy Bustards that sold sub prime mortgages.....

@Gene Cash - great comment!

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Turn the tables

Get a warrant to search the judges house, find the family album, search for the inevitable baby in the bathtub pic, and lock him up for child pr0n.

Then ask him what he thinks of his ruling on the girl.

Personally, if she was dumb enough to take pics of her own body and send them to classmates, it's her problem. She'll learn the hard way (and soon, if what I remember of school is still accurate) that once you send something out in the wild, it never disappears and always comes back to haunt you. At least one of her pics is probably already posted on a web page somewhere.

Otherwise, I totally agree with Mike on this. If she can get 20 years, then she's old enough to be responsible for her acts. If not, then there's no way she should get more than community service.

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So.....

They want to protect a 15 year old from herself by ruining her life for the next 20 yrs (sex offenders register)

That seems more than a bit backward

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Happy

The land of the free...

God bless America!

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@David Wiernicki

We have a constitution, and effectively a supreme court ;)

My parents have a picture of me when I was about 3 with my todger sticking over the edge of a bucket, which is CLEARLY child pornography. Who do I report them to?

It's for our own protection...

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