China Skype service snags and stores users' messages

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And how is this different to western governments? #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 03:51 GMT

Warrantless wiretapping by the Bush administration in the grey house followed up by retrospective laws to cover up criminal activity, permanent and pervasive surveillance of everything from number plates to Internet traffic in the UK, constant illegal activity by the police and government, the list goes on. We are in no position to criticise either China or Ebay over this as our own governments do this with the same corporations on a regular basis. Don't even mention human rights, all the Chinese need to say is 'Guantanemo', half of Europe is complicit in that crime too. The only failure here was poor security on the setup, we should at least have had to wait for some incompetent git from the government to leave CDs of the data on a train...

Beachhutman

What do you know? #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 06:09 GMT

That PDF link is blocked in China!

Anonymous Coward

Ask yourself how they can tap this.. #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:49 GMT

The only way you can reliably break into comms like this is by either tapping a central point (which would stuff scalability) or by bugging the software. I have a feeling this has been in the code for a long time.

Figures, yet again a US product. Windows, anyone?

Stu Reeves

Pretty easy to spot... #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:49 GMT

...that it was a Chinese system it was encrypted to prevent snooping It had been British, it would have been in plain text, along with your Bank details.

grahame

sounds like the socialist republic of brownistan #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:49 GMT

I don't know. Those Chinese are turning their country into some sort of Britain, circa 2008. A dictatorial marxist government, unelected, widely despised and trying to control everyone with an all seeing eye of surveillance and paid lackeys.

Anonymous Coward

@The Cube #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:49 GMT

Yes, and non of those are ever critisised by El Reg.

Makeing comments like "the gray house" dose not make you clever, it makes you look like a fool.

Aslo, Who uses Skype anyway? Its like admiting you are on AOL.

Anonymous Coward

Re: What do you know? #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 12:55 GMT

> That PDF link is blocked in China!

Agreed (using 163.com ISP in Nanjing). Thankfully proxies are everywhere.

I thought something like this might be happening when there was one version for China and one for everybody else. This is why I emailed my family the international version, made them install that and give a copy to anybody they know using the TOM-skype client. I suggest anybody else with friends or family in China does the same.

Anonymous and through not one but two proxies (i.e. two layers of encryption) for obvious reasons.

Anonymous Coward

Secure VOIP #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 12:55 GMT

OK, I never used AOL, but I do use Skype for private calls.

What's the best secure Voip client and can it integrate (for insecure calls) with Skype?

RotaCyclic

Sshhh... #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 14:57 GMT

For God's sake don't tell the Labour government about this: they'll pass a law that says Skye has to save the messages for 6 years and give access to 150 different organisations unlimited access to them, with the Police and Security services accounting for 3 of the 150.

Really? #

Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 16:59 GMT

"Human rights advocates have uncovered a huge surveillance system in China"

In CHINA? Who'd have thought...

FOSS can save the day though.

Anonymous Coward

you know #

Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 11:01 GMT

It's interseting, China (a state known not to like political decent much) stores messages and it's all over the mainstream media - the states allows no holds bar invasion of privacy at borders and illegal wiretapping, I've seen little mention of it anywhere. The UK government (okay now whitehall plan on doing it instead) plans a massive data silo and again no word in the mainstream press...

Man I love how impartial mainstream media seems to be.

Big Al

The Times has much more... #

Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 13:33 GMT

Oh no it doesn't!

The Times is a prestigious newspaper published in London.

The New York Times is a prestigious newspaper published in New York.

In the global village, surely one needs to be more careful about using local slang when referring to the media of record?

Anonymous Coward

If you want to communicate securely #

Posted Monday 6th October 2008 09:18 GMT

If you want to communicate securely, always do the encryption yourself on your end, and have the recipient do the decryption themselves on their end. Never rely on the carrier - you'll never be able to verify their handling.

Anonymous Coward

If you must use Skype, add an encryption layer #

Posted Monday 6th October 2008 09:18 GMT

Something like Phil Zimmermann's (the creator of PGP) ZFone. It's not perfect as it uses a negotiated key, and so like SSL can be compromised by a man-in-the-middle, but its better than relying on Skype itself.

http://zfoneproject.com/