
RE: David Neil - sorry, can't find the we-would-prefer-Clown poll either, but I remember it being quoted on the BBC at the time so it might be worth searching the Beeb archives. As to "ignoring the facts", I challenged AC over his claim that Brown was "elected by the members of the House of Parliament", when in fact the Labour members of the House were the only ones involved in his selection, not the members from other parties, and the Labour MPs were a minority of selectees compared with the unelected and therefore unrepresentative mass of the Labour Party and associated unions that did select him. Gordon Brown was elected as a constituency MP, not as PM. Please tell me which fact that ignores?
But the mention of honour is interesting, are you implying that Mr Brown is less than honourable in his desire to avoid a general election at any cost? Personally I wouldn't describe him as dishonourable, just stupid - he could have taken the shine from the Blair years and used it in a snap election to gain five years of mandate, but instead he left himself open to claims he feared an election and has since removed any Blair shine by a series of staggeringly incompetent decisions by himself and his administration, leaving him at real risk of losing the next election. I for one would rather vote for Paris than Gormless Brown.
RE: Pierre - isn't it past your bedtime? Obama hasn't been accused of sleeping with terrorists (not unless you're making some new allegation about Michelle Obama?) or kiddie-fiddlers (OK, she is a scary lady, but I find it a real stretch to believe that of her!). But he does have some very unsavoury connections in his past which he seems to spend a lot of time first denying and then admitting to but saying "but that really isn't what/who I am now". A simple example of his hypocracy in associating with such people as Edward Said, Khalid Al-Mansour, Louis Farrakhan and Rashid Khalidi, whilst at the same time trying to paint himself as a defender of Israel to try and capture the Jewish vote. Or by choosing to make a speach in Germany rather than visiting wounded US soldiers in military hospitals in Germany, then making up some fairytale about how he thought about joining the military. The old Benny Hill joke that you can always tell when a politician is lying by checking if his lips are moving has never seemed more appropriate!
In short, he seems the type of greasy politician that will promise anything to anyone, so what is there left of what Obama says that can be believed? There is a complete absence of any real accomplishments to measure the man against, and his voting record is mainly "present" and shows an avoidance to deal with any issues. A good example is that whilst McCain was on Capitol Hill involved in the first round of the recent bail-out negotiations, probably the single most important issue of the day, Obama stayed in his hotel room and just turned up to vote "present" again, finally only voting for the revised measures when he was sure they would go through. In short, he dodged the issue again rather than risk courting controversy, and concentrated on his election campaign instead. Hardly a ringing endorsement for a man who claims he is ready to lead the US in these troubled times.
Which brings us to the "black and white" bit. The sad truth is the next US prez will have a serious knock on effect for our economy here, and Obama is the empty suit standing at the head of the Democrat party that's well-intentioned social engineering led to the current worldwide financial disaster. Even Brown the Clown would think twice about the idea of forcing banks to give out bad mortgages to low- or no-income people, but that's effectively what Clinton's Democrat administration did, and what Obama endorsed and made worse through his work with people like ACORN. I'm not too keen to see the mess he can make, given his record (or lack of it) so far. To my mind, McCain is not ideal, but I'd rather have him in the Whitehouse with Palin as backup. So, no black or white choice, just which shade of grey is going to cause the least amount of brown in my life. So why not try thnking about the issues before posting any more poor attempts at humour.
PS: I was going to think of a joke about great French accomplishments, but with so little material to work on I just decided to let the Fwench do it themselves. ;)