Shoot the messenger! #
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 09:52 GMT
and bury the news. Always a good strategy for the powerful corrupt to adopt.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 09:52 GMT
and bury the news. Always a good strategy for the powerful corrupt to adopt.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 09:52 GMT
That UK MP's don't get a whiff of this story... I can see a new UK law coming into force, with the line between insult and criticism being very blurred or at least open to interpretation.
I dare say, What Justice Kan Ting Chiu saw as insult, others would most likely see as criticism, or dare I? oops, too late now.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
No word about whether the inflamed comments were true/justified though? A bitch is a bitch is a bitch and it makes no difference if you call her a dog and give her lipstick and whenever you have a System which is Adversarial and Supports with Champion Practitioners, both Crime and Victim, you have a Corrupt System which actually encourages Abuse and Injustice for the Consideration of Increased Wealth.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
Sounds like a particular public servant doesn't understand the phrase and took the first word at it's most common meaning and not as it appears to be meant in the blog, "selling out your beliefs"
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
the old forgetting your not in the US chestnut.
If your in a country that does not have a right to free speech, so anywhere that's not in the US, then moderate what you publish! Even in the US if you published something, without evidence, alleging that a judge was corrupt you would get into trouble, why is it such a shock!
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
The guy didn't deserve it, but he's hardly bright either for making those comments. I mean, the Singapore judges are hardly known for their leniance and sense of humour, eh?
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
"I can see a new UK law coming into force, with the line between insult and criticism being very blurred or at least open to interpretation."
It very nearly did, a few years ago, as part of Rome II (harmonisation of non-contractual undertakings, iirc). Briefly, people would have been able to bring defamation cases in the English courts, under foreign law. For example, French law, where the truth is not a defence if the complaiant is a head of state.
We managed to stop it, though :)
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
Not much freedom of speech there - it's been that way for many years. Sort of democracy, but not quite. Best to treat it as a stopover - enjoy the shopping and a couple of Mai Tai's, then leave.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:13 GMT
though would be nice if you were explicit.
But, when in Rome; Singapore has a lot of politically correct laws don't they - no chewing gum - no smoking - it sounds like hell, but if you go there should be aware of the laws.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:27 GMT
Before you think "couldn't happen here", remember what can happen to you if you wear a "Bollocks to Blair" T-shirt in a public place:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/5135150.stm
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 13:27 GMT
prossies and corruption... thats new.
A first for me, agreeing with a legal eagle, but he was right, and she is corrupt.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 14:45 GMT
@AC
No smoking? Is that new? I always choose ( and pay extra for ) singapore as the stopover point simply because of the bars in the airport which allow smoking.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 15:56 GMT
Wacky Jacqui or Bumbling Bush or other corrupt, inept, deceitful, lying, warmongering, ignorant public officials. Maybe if that judge wasn't selling her soul to the current scum in charge he wouldn't have said that; then again, maybe he would and who knows?
Paris, 'cuz she wouldn't sell herself.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 18:59 GMT
"The charge of insulting a public servant carries a maximum penalty of one year's jail and a fine of up to 5,000 Singapore dollars ($3,500)"
ok then, every public servant in Singapore is a cunt ...... how much do I owe?
paris ...cause..... u guessed it
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 18:59 GMT
It's worth pointing out (though a little late for the case linked) that the courts have already decided that 'bollocks' is NOT an obscenity :D It contextually means 'nonsense'.
Paris, because she's well versed in handling contextual nonsense.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 19:59 GMT
Hahahahaha. That may be the only emotional thing I've ever seen from you.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 19:59 GMT
When you go to a different country , you play by their rules.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 19:59 GMT
We would anyone even go to that country? They'll jail you, kill you, or beat you with a stick for pretty much anything.
Posted Friday 19th September 2008 22:50 GMT
This is just plain, ordinary Contempt of Court. As a former lawyer, he should have known better and now he's paying the price for his stupidity. This isn't an attack on Freedom of Speech, or proof that it doesn't exist in Singapore, it's just a judge insisting that she be treated with respect. He'd get the same treatment (if possibly less severe) in England, Canada or America. Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
It's an attack on freedom of speech when it occurs in any country.
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
"" He'd get the same treatment (if possibly less severe) in England, Canada or America. Nothing to see here, move along.""
Actually, I doubt that. This is just freedom of expression which would be respected here.
It's his blog. It's his opinion. He's entitled to an opinion and he's entitled to state it although apparently not in Singapore.
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
Wait a coherent,rational , emotional post by him ?? SO that means he is a real person or some hijacked his account
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
well I think you can still smoke in designated areas, and outside, but drop the end anywhere apart from a designated spot, and it is the bamboo canes and dripping water.
It is a very strict country, quite a few find that pleasant, but seems a bit too draconian for my liking.
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
Poor reporting: it's totally unclear where the US element comes in. Is this guy a Sherman that was visiting Singapore, or was he a Singaporean in Singapore that happens also to be a US Citizen?
"He'd get the same treatment (if possibly less severe) in England, Canada or America. "
This is complete rubbish. You, sir, are shallow and pedantic.
Posted Sunday 21st September 2008 08:34 GMT
Just because other countries do it doesn't mean its OK or not an attack on free speech.
Posted Monday 22nd September 2008 10:48 GMT
More evidence that only test cricket playing nations can be considered civilized.
Personally I would never visit a country with laws like this. Absolutely disusting.
Fascist bastards
Posted Monday 22nd September 2008 14:39 GMT
is a fine city, you can get fined for damn near anything there!