I don't think I'll try sliding it into my MacBook

"another gimmick dressed up as a revolution" that pun was intentional, right?

DVDs, revolution... yes, we get it.

idea!

Either:

1) You recognise that none of your customers require the old "full fat" SIM format, in which case you should just ditch the spurious placcy and ship the relevant bit along with a conventional driver disc that can be stored easily with all the customer's other discs.

or:

2) You recognise that some of your customers do require the old "full fat" SIM format, in which case they can't break the DVD bit off this thing and install the drivers.

I'll bet there was some whalesong involved in this idea.

Do you put the whole card in the drive?

... why the hell is the SIM card still so freaking big? Backwards compatibility?

The last time I remember seeing a phone that was designed to take the credit card sized SIM card was circa 1995 -- why haven't they discarded the "chunk of plastic that is normally discarded" themselves at source?

I don't know why, but I'd guess that, since Gemalto also make credit cards, it could be cheaper for them to do it this way.

I think an old-fashioned "large" sim shares the same form factor as a chip-and-pin smartcard, which would explain why they keep the superfluous plastic - easier to stick in a reader/writer

This does not work in slot-in drives.

This likely will not work well in tray-based drives.

The off-center load will not be beneficial to the drives it will actually work well in, namely those with with accessible spindles.

All the trouble for 50 megs? What? If they want more use and eco-friendliness for those trays, they should just make them thinner so the good people of Milan can employ is as handy coke-scrapers.

PC magazine producers (the ones with disks on the front covers) could take note of the green wave and replace their read-only media with re-writeable media. Granted, margins are no doubt tight in most print publications, so for this idea to be a goer we'd either have to have differential taxing on the blank media (tax the WORMs more than the re-usable media) or the mag would have to parlay the green goodwill into a premium for advertisers and/or readers to pay. To encourage readers to actually erase the discs, I imagine a piece of software to copy the CD to disk and manage the library from there could be included so users know it's safe to nuke old CDs and re-use them. This library management system could also take care to only archive one copy of repeatedly-occurring content to cut down on disk space. The system might need some safeguards to prevent someone modifying the disk before it reaches the user, but a simple system that asks the internet for an MD5/SHA checksum of a random sampling of disk areas along with a full-disk/package-by-package check would probably suffice.

Oh, and the differential taxing mightn't be a bad idea to kill all those "free" CDs that advertisers slip between the covers, which invariably end up being tossed without ever seeing the inside of a CD drive. (*cough* AOL *cough*)

Tux, because you can have this idea for free.

I have not seen any piece of tech that requires the larger 'credit card'-sized SIM card for well over a decade now. If there are SIM readers out there that require it, isn't it high time they were replaced with newer ones, for the sake of the millions (billions?) of other pieces of equipment on whose behalf the much larger extra plastic is simply discarded?

What's green about using that plastic for something of dubious benefit, when it should not be there in the first place?

And when will people stop riding on the 'green' bandwagon just to try to sell a crap idea?

who has expensive DVD's players/recorders in their computers now :s

The DVD bit is also a press out - so probably will be balanced (assuming you can work out that bit and not put the whole car in)

"making use of a chunk of plastic that is normally discarded"... How about not manufacturing the chunk of plastic in the first place, or using cardboard?

<<I can see the SIM portion is meant to be completely snapped off at the perforations, but how many people will try and put the whole thing in a drive>>

Same twats who'd use the DVD tray as a coffee-cup holder......

Personally, I think it's a great idea. Now, if they'd done it with DVD R/W technology....Yessss!

I really don't see the reason for such a huge piece of plastic anymore anyway.

Originally, the credit-card sized plastic with punch-out SIM was introduced for backwards compatibility. Some really old phones that used that Anna-Logg system took credit-card sized SIMs. When the chip got down to its current size, it was morphed into its current form to be compatible with both old phones and the newer mini-SIM cards.

Since there are little to none analogue services still in operation, I can't see why the still bother manufacturing such a huge lump of plastic.

-- Richard

The idea of a credit card disk isn't new, and bare in mind that sim section is a snap off, and no, you don't put the whole card in.

no fears about what it would do to a conventional dvd drive, but as yet, I have not had the cahones to place one of these babies in a slot drive.... any other drives are fine.

The second you put the card in the phone, connect the phone to the PC, ask if the user wants the PDF manuals downloaded now? Almost every gadget I have bought lately has done this, my latest Garmin SATNAV, my Archos media box.

Green and saves on the amount of plastic being used and over hundreds of thousands of cards would be a saving, unlike this crap idea!

How soon until there is the standard slot loading dvd drive debacle?

... like mine.

So now I'll be able to buy a swanky new phone that can play BluRay content, eh?

From the picture, if the left-hand portion containing the SIM is removed then the remainder is square in proportion and therefore balanced.

Moments of inertia are funny things, which is why real engineers usually get a technician to spin things around and see if they fly apart rather than doing reams of painful maths (and anyway, it's much more entertaining). Equal weights at 12, 3, 4, 8 and 9 o'clock would be *dynamically* balanced, even although they obviously aren't *statically* balanced.

None of which changes the fact that it's a stupid gimmick. As, come to think of it, are penny-in-the-slot optical drives. At least with a traditional tray-loader, you don't have to wear gloves in order not to get fingerprints on the working surface of the disc .....