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Anonymous Coward

Bank of America -FAIL 

I'm disappointed.

Anonymous Coward

Alliance Leicester FAIL 

If the testing method described in the last para of the article is sound

Max Vernon

TD Canada Trust - PASS 

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TD Canada Trust banking seems to work fine.

Max Vernon

Bank of Nova Scotia (Canada) - FAIL 

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Not good...

Michael James

St George Bank, Australia pass 

Happy

A few unsecured cookies, but without the secure ones; you're logged out. 8^)

Tom

For the legacy challenged 

How do you check in IE?

Mart

HSBC UK 

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Looks ok here :)

Anonymous Coward

EBankInter - PASS 

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Phew!

david g

FIRST DIRECT - pass 

Paris Hilton

Paris - because it's obviously Phorm-related

Anonymous Coward

HSBC.co.uk - Pass 

Assuming validity of the test of course

Anonymous Coward

Halifax and Nationwide - FAIL 

Both allow cookies over "any type of connection"

Aidan Ramskir

Egg Banking - PASS 

Assuming I followed instructions properly

Anonymous Coward

Halifax - FAIL 

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Disappointing

Gerry

FirstDirect - PASS 

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Seems to have passed but I hope someone else tries the test.

Aidan Samuel

hsbc.co.uk - pass 

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just the personal side, didn't try the business side.

Anonymous Coward

Try Logging Out !? 

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But the banks, and others, say to always logout, so that would surely (?) avoid this situation? Also all banks that I have used automatically log you off if unused for a few minutes.

Anyway, will try a few...

Neil Barnes

Barclays - UK - PASS 

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Showed no cookies as secure, so didn't erase anything after the first clearing.

Anonymous Coward

First Direct - PASS 

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First Direct seem to be OK :-)

Anonymous Coward

Standard Bank (South Africa) - PASS 

Only one cookie from the internet banking server, and it's "encrytped connection only".

Danny

Natwest - PASS 

If this method works

FlatSpot

What about? 

Next, clear all cookies marked as "SECURE" (in Firefox, go to preferences > privacy > show cookies. Delete only the cookies marked as "Encrypted connections only").

What if you visit the site and it doesnt have "marked as SECURE/Encrypted connections only" It has JSESSIONID, WT_FPC, and a couple of Apache... is that good or bad :s

robert

Bank Of Scotland - PASS 

Didnt even need to delete any cookies. As soon as I closed the Bank of Scotland tab, and then reopened it, I was logged out.

druck

Widespread 

Unhappy

Out of 10 banking an investment sites I've logged in to, only one is even using cookies set to "secure connections only", the rest are all "any connection", so I suspect the problem is extremely widespread.

Prashant Kerai

Lloyds TSB - PASS 

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(whew)

Anonymous Coward

Halifax (UK) - FAIL 

(Assuming I'm following the guidelines correcly - there weren't any cookies marked as secure)

Anonymous Coward

Oh come on 

This is a man in the middle attack run on a local network, you can do far more than nab cookies to sites.

And it is amusing people don't understand how cookies work, Lou Montulli is probably spinning in his grave (ok he is not dead, well not that I know off), but the mechanism has been in for ages to only transmit over a secured channel.

And you would have thought with all this phorm business, people would have looked into how they were handling their cookies, but a lot of folks use frameworks and obviuosly people who don't know what they are doing have been building those.

It is a little bit of a storm in a teacup, but the fix is so trivial, it is called not hiring cowyboy coders.

Anonymous Coward

German Commerzbank, Volkswagenbank Pass , but ... 

... it's not only your bank account. ebay.co.uk fails as does ebay.de

Tim Parker

HSBC (UK) - Pass 

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Nuff z

Rob Parsons

Lloyds TSb passes, I think 

Happy

Couldn't do that on Firefox for some reason, but the cookie manager in Opera says Lloyds TSB's online service cookies are secure.

RotaCyclic

There's another way... 

There's one safe way to secure our online bank accounts...don't have them online!

We've managed perfectly well for many years without online accounts.

Think I'll put up with the slight increase in inconvenience by using a bricks and mortar bank account.

Anonymous Coward

Firstdirect - PASS 

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Firstdirect - PASS

Anonymous Coward

barclays... FAIL 

Konqueror reports all cookies as ... "Secure: No".

Anonymous Coward

First Direct - pass? 

In FF3, didn't see any encrypted cookies etc, but deleted the many other new ones related to the session, then clicked on a button in the banking window - immediately booted right out...

Anonymous as I don't want anyone to know who I bank with!

blah

Royal Bank Of Scotland - Fail 

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Just rang them, and was told "we are aware of it" without me even saying what the issue was??

David Hayes

HSBC (UK) - Pass 

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Thankfully they get something right!

Steve Sherlock

LloydsTSB - Pass 

I feel somewhat relieved, but then I remember I'm in court with the gits and it all comes crumbling down again :p

Steve Sherlock

(Bubble Burst) Student Finance website is wiiiiiiiiiiide open. FAIL 

Just tried out the student finance site which is full of lots of lovely personal info, and they're as open as.. (on the internet, must keep clean...) a really, really, really wide open thing. *cough*

V

Gnatwest 

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Gnatwest - OK

(they did something right for a change!)

Charles Green

Citibank - PASS 

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From the US, anyway.

Charles Green

TD Ameritrade - PASS 

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TD Ameritrade passes after removing secure cookies from 'ameritrade' and 'tdameritrade' domains.

Robin Layfield

Co-operative Bank - FAIL 

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boohoo... no secure cookies. gonna report it now

DZ-Jay

USAA.com - FAIL 

Damn! not a Secure Cookie in sight!

-dZ.

Anonymous Coward

Man in the Middle 

If you use an external proxy server you could easily be vulnerable to a Man in the Middle attack, but then if you're accessing sensitive sites via this method, you should step away from your PC.

Of course, there is the additional problem of the ubiquitious "transparent caches" employed by some ISPs, also.

I noticed that at least one person commenting above didn't understand the instructions properly, btw.

Anonymous Coward

Co-op bank - FAIL 

I see no "secure connection only" cookies after logging in to the co-op bank website, so presumably they're vulnerable.

Curiously Halifax do send one "secure only" cookie, however removing it doesn't cause the session to close so presumably it's one of the "any type of connection" cookies that actually matters.

Pathetic. Let's see how long it takes them all to fix it.

Roger Heathcote

Nice hack 

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That's a clever little hack, goes to show there's no easy way to check your balance on the coffee shop's free wifi connection. Have to admit I didn't know about secure cookies until I read this, I'd start using SSL on all my sites if certs were a whole lot cheaper :-)

Len Goddard

Cahoot (part of abbey) 

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Flooded me with cookies but none were marked as secure.

Deleting the cookies logged me out.

Brian Miller

RBS fail...ish 

Royal bank of scotland fails for the login but now requires the use of crazy encrypto calc to do any sort of transfers outside of your own accounts.

So, someone could come in and transfer money between my own accounts, but would not be able to set up direct debits, transfer to someone else's account etc.

Not great, but at least its something. Just in time too. This is brand new,

Hunter Chisholm

National City - PASS 

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So does American Express - pass

lIsRT

Alliance & Leicester - PASS? 

I see the 2nd comment above, but logging in to https://www.mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk/index.asp it seems like a PASS, it *always* asks for my PIN anyway, so I'm not sure if that means it was safe already.

Nigel Callaghan

Abbey Business - PASS 

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...if I did it right.

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