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Anyone who's been mercilessly pummeled by a fistful of undesired consonants can tell you that board games are too often serious business. Add the anonymity and general dyspeptic attitude of the internet, and it's surely a recipe for short fuses. Witness: the white-hot passion and misdirected vengeance of fans of the popular …

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Paris Hilton

Your poor Scrabble example

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In your scrabble image the OG and KY are not valid words, at least according to the TWL scrabble dictionary.

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Now that Scrabulous has been removed and Scrabble Beta is not working, I have much more time to post ridiculous comments like this.

PH because she says OMG when she sees the KY.

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Anonymous Coward

re: Your poor Scrabble example

/lost too many times at scrabble to someone who likes to build word squares, no matter how impossible it looks

I'd imagine that was just a snapshot missing out the letters F, S & M round about the edges...

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Ru
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Re: Your poor Scrabble example

"In your scrabble image the OG and KY are not valid words, at least according to the TWL scrabble dictionary."

If not challenged, they can stay. This, at least, avoids some of the pitfalls of atrocious dictionaries (like yahoo's literati, for example) and keeps the game at the level of the players ;-)

But then, standard are slipping these days. Some people accept anything on the SOWPODS which is terribly liberal in what it accepts, colloquialisms and foreign words be damned. I remember seeing a little scrabulous note one day that mentioned that their highest scoring opening word was 'muzjik' or some such idiocy.

Argh. It's almost enough to make one FOTW.

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Valid?

KY is on the list of valid two letter combinations which came with my boxed Scrabble game and is a Scots word for cow (confirmed by my Scottish in-laws). Don't know about Og though but I do recall people who have won Scrabble competitions with obscure Tibetan words for the sound made by a Yak falling onto a snow covered flower or some such. Always thought you could only use words in the language for which the set was intended but when did rules ever matter.

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@GumboKing

Scrabble boards tend to be a bit larger than the shown, so there are probably parts we don't see. So "KY" could be parts of "SKY", "SHAKY", or many others, and the "AA" near the bottom right could be part of "AARDWARK", which I wish I ever get the opportunity of building in Scrabble. :-)

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@GumboKing

Several of the words look dodgy to me (AA? I thought abreviations wern't allowed), however to fix the ones you mentioned, change OG to OR and LEEK to SEEM and everything is cuil.

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@Gumboking

KY is valid in SOWPODS however OG is not. So nearly half right given this is an English site!

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Dead Vulture

AA?

I remember as a 7 year old child trying to use the word "AA" on a Scrabble board and being told it wasn't a proper word, the grown-up then put the Scrabble away and told me I could only play Mastermind instead.

Thanks El Reg for opening up old wounds which I had dug deep down and supressed for many years *Sob!*

I will be sending you a therapy bill...

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Happy

Back again...

Now here's odd - Scrabulous was gone from Facebook yesterday evening (UK time) but was back again this morning.

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got to go and buy a real board then...

Oh. Hang on, I just did, and it arrived yesterday. That's fortuitous!

However, it's still annoying that they killed off a good app, rather than work with the makers.

The only question is how are they blocking it? Is it based on IP addresses (proxies sounding like a good ploy), or is it based on the location provided in facebook? If the latter, expect a number of UK players to become 'irish' or something similarly innocuous

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Go

Dont Worry...

Just use http://www.scrabulizer.com/ it does the same job but only better!

James

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Pirate

Lets hope they don't go after PHPDiplomacy too.

I'd use the "knife in the back" symbol of Diplomacy if there was one, but there isn't, so Pirate will have to do.

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Erm, removed?

Really - still seems alive and well to me

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Anonymous Coward

re: Your poor Scrabble example

OG and KY are both in SOWPODS (Official scrabble word list), the dictionary that everyone expect the dirty merkins use. So they are valid words...

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Coat

double-score pedantry

Most scrabble boards are a little bit larger than the piece shown, perhaps there's actually room for a "d" before "og" and a "s" above "ky"?

(I reckon that about shows my scrabble skill level btw!)

Mine's the one with the elbow patches...

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@Your poor Scrabble example

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www.theregister.co.uk

So sowpods is the dictionary of choice here - not the Americanised crap that is TWL - it lacks so many antequated words, making scrabble by guesswork very difficult.

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Although og still doesn't appear, ky does (and obscurely, according to the OED, is the plural of cow in Scottish and northern dialects).

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Pirate

As the Kidnapster guy on Futurama said:

"The Internet's about the free exchange and sale of other people's ideas."

The BBC ran a story on the Scrabaulous saga when it first broke. Their generic Scrabble pic said, "bum". Sadly, while I laughed and directed my colleagues to it, I didn't screen cap it.

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IT Angle

Why...

... Didn't Hasbro enter into a revenue sharing / licensing agreement with the Scrabulous creators rather than setting the lawyers on them? That way everyone would've been happy surely?

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Tim
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Actually...

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Aa is a valid word, not an abbreviation. It comes originally from Hawaiian and is a blocky-textured variety of lava.

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@Stuart

they probably couldn't make a deal with Scrabulous as they'd already sold video game rights to EA

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Boffin

Re; Why...

R e v e n u e ?

Sorry, not getting you there.

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@Torben

"AARDWARK"

I'd like to challenge that one please........

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Better alternatives

Hardly surprising Scrabulous got shut down considering the blatantly similar name and identical board layout, letter points and game rules. And not too much of a loss, considering there are plenty of much better games in a similar vein which don't restrict themselves to all Scrabble's limitations.

Google CrossCraze for one of the better ones...

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Anonymous Coward

@Torben Mogensen

Surely you mean "AARDVARK"

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Go

@Stuart

These companies are controlled by lawyers and accountants. It looks like the lawyers have the bigger say in this one!

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Happy

@Tim

*You* are my therapist!

Now just need to seek revenge on above mentioned grown-up.

How much do I owe you? Do you do contract hits as well?

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Anonymous Coward

@Torben Mogensen

Yup, your quite right: it's a cropped image. Here's the original:

http://www.stackwords.com/newimages/screenshot.gif

As used on the Scrabulous site [ http://www.scrabulous.com/ ]

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Go

Og is a perfectly good word..

Og is a perfectly valid (Gaelic) word meaning 'young'. What? You don't allow Gaelic?

Fhalabh 'sa boc!

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Ian
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Is it just me...

... That, much as I dislike big companies muscling in, thinks Hasbro were completely in their rights to clobber these two? They *stole* scrabble lock, stock, and triple word score. The rules, layout, design, everything. And then made money off it through advertising.

Not sure how anyone can defend that, imagine if they scanned in a book you wrote, put it online, and made money off advertising surrounding it? The idea that they should enter a "revenue share" scheme is like someone nicking stuff out your shop to sell on the street in front of you and you decide it's OK if they give you half the profit?

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Alert

Enough about OG and KY already

What the hell is Lown?

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Re: Actually...

<geological pedant>

I second that, Tim. To elaborate, it is a two-syllable word, which I was told by a man in a pub comes from the sound one makes when walking barefoot across blocky lava flows. This, however, does not shed any light on why its smoother-surface equivalent is called 'pahoehoe', other than that the Hawaiian language must be full of really cool words.

</geological pedant>

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Anonymous Coward

Bum

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44358000/jpg/_44358969_facebookbody.jpg

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@ Ian - You are right

For good or bad Hasbro have the rights and can exercise them as they feel fit.

Hasbro appear to be a company very much into protecting itself and its products. I've just been modding a toy video player of theirs and they did everything they could to stop that being easily hacked; it uses its own size discs ( small ones are detected as too small, full-size discs requires cutting much of the case away including the case closed detector ), the video data is non standard, held in audio tracks. It didn't stop some bright sparks figuring how to get round all that but it does point to a company which takes protecting its products seriously, and why not ?

Never stand on the shoulders of giants and expect not to get knocked off.

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Anonymous Coward

OG is not a word... it's circumstance :-)

Look at the image again, you don't get points for OG. But you get points for the two words that are vertical. :-)

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Gates Horns

Server meltdown

Hasbro 15,000 users, Facebook Scrabulous 1,500,000 users.

Scrabulous server shutdown and migration to Hasbro = hasbro Server meltdown.

OMG, what do we do? Blame the "hackers" rather than incompetent Hasbro management.

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Coat

The BBC's bum

"Broadcasting Under-Manager". I thought abbreviations didn't count?

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