Unless they are going to require kids to verify their age before firing up their favourite P2P client and categorise torrents with age restrictions then its is just a new form of DRM to annoy potential customers with.

Who cares if kids are paying to download unsuitable material from online content sellers, Just rejoice in the fact they are paying for it and not stealing it.

How many people are going to find themselves faced with having to fill in some extra stuff when they order and jump through some additional hoops and just think sod it ill grab it off usenet/bittorrent/FTP site/get a copy off a mate?

"the government now needs to seriously consider whether filtering software has reached the point where some elements of internet policing may safely be placed back in the hands of parents"

When exactly was it taken out of the hands of parents? Or does the government just assume control regardless?

Totally agree, really pi$$es me off when I see people calling for more Censorship of the NET, when all they need to do is actually pay attention to what their bloody Progeny are actually up to.

If you are too stupid to understand what your kids are doing on the Internet, either learn or don't give them NET access. It's simple.

Read-world ID cards have your face on them so you can't use your parents'. What's to stop you using somebody else's details with this scheme? I'm sure kids will soon be trading their parents' or older brothers' login details.

motion seconded, give that man/woman a beer on me.

Remember those 'phone cards a bit ago? The one's where you dialed 144 etc etc? Well, a friend of a friend found one, then wrote said number down on several bits of paper along with the words "If you want free 'phone calls, ring this number, then dial the number you want". It got absolutely hammered, to a point where it no longer worked.

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Jacqui Smith trades mostly on "I'm a mum too" credentials, but is only a "bog standard" politician when it comes to policy and "radical" thinking. She ain't sorted the knife crisis nor the binge drinking out with her stupid adverts has she?

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so NetIDme provide a OpenID = good

NetIDme does not allow you to use an existing OpenID = bad

it really would be as simple as keeping a database of all the verified OpenID's so that if someone said is openid "john.appleseed.name" or "fred@yahoo.com" over 18 NetIDme could say yes...

its that simple manage the NetIDme profile and link it to the OpenID of choice i.e. Yahoo account (that are OpenID's) etc

(and if they dont have a OpenID then provide them with one which is what NetIDme’s already doing)

far more powerful and might get used

regards

John Jones

That's because there *isn't* a 'knife crisis' OR a 'binge drinking' crisis. There are a lot of people in this country. Some of them are idiots. Some of these idiots like to get idiotically drunk. We've all done that.

A tiny number of these idiots (a distinctly separate subset to 'people who like a drink on a friday', mark you) stab each other occasionally. A much larger set of idiots (we'll call these ones 'journalists' - not good ones, but still) write gibbering tosh to sell foolish newspapers to curtain twitching fools.

This allows another set of idiots to pass misguided legislation to further their own agendas. All driven by the selling of newspaper ads for shit that the curtain-twitchers don't need in the first place.

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"How many Russian porn sites are going to follow UK legislation? Or simlar legislation from any other counries? These politicians are all thick as shit."

True - Russian sites will not play by our rules, but remember that your ISP will be inspecting your data and may need to Issue a stiff letter.

Paris - cos she knows to deal with stiff letters

"Step forward NetIDme. Under cover of a suitably unpronounceable brand name"

I stared at NetIDme for about 20 seconds, gave up, and decided to call it "Net Dime."

Then I read the above quote. My sentiments exactly!

What we have here, is a metaphor for life...

Until 1997 the net was a fantastic thing, then government got involved... It's been downhill ever since.

Where, once there was information, now there is advertising.

Where, once there was the free exchange of ideas, now there is fear and loathing.

Where, once there was freedom, now there are threats.

What would be really handy, would be a way of identifying government stooges and slapping a BEWARE! label on. After all of their interventions (and this also applies to EVERY facet of life), the internet is no safer, no more secure, there is no more parity between rich and poor, etc. etc. The only result has been an increasing level of unhelpful interference and restriction/constriction.

Maybe it is time for right thinking libertarian people to start a new net, one where we can protect our privacy, where government fascists are given the "black spot" and avoided like the plague that they represent.

N.B. this should also apply to every facet of life, government should have ONLY ONE role, they should be there to stop something even nastier crawling out of the woodshed.

One would have thought that "Joe Public" would have learned by now, first we had the monarch, then we had the church and now we have the government, and all of them seem to think it is their right to inflict their ever changing morals upon us, and like rats in a cage, the more rules, the more people rebel and the tighter the fascist screws are applied.

There is only one world, everyone's shit stinks in the morning, and no one is better than anyone else.