Lesbian activists from the sun-kissed Sapphic luuurv island of Lesbos have been roundly licked in their battle to prevent gay gals dubbing themselves lesbians, the Beeb reports. The anti-lesbian Lesbians, led by Dimitris Lambrou, back in April launched a legal action against the Greek Gay and Lesbian Union (Olke) claiming that …
Excepting at the start of a sentence, surely the good folks of Lesbos can distinguish themselves from the good girl-on-girl lovers through the use of a capital or lowercase "L". Hence: Lesbian - resident of Lesbos; lesbian - woman who lurve woman.
Problems may arise at the start of a sentence, whereupon you do what anyone else does and go by the context. Even better if you're a Lesbian lesbian.
While we're at it, we could call welsh ones Llesbians.
As mentioned in the article and its to good to let go, they where well and truely licked.
but... what if you're a gay woman from Lesbos.... then what do you call yourself? I guess anything you want.
So El Reg isn't a lesbian online site??? When did this happen i thought all the flame wars about the JesusPhone and Global Warming were a direct result of the lesbian readership, not to mention their fixation with Paris!
I will have to take my "straight man wanting to watch lesbians battle it out over the best OS" readership elsewhere... (Perhaps WIRED is better for this hmmm)
/I'll grab my coat with hidden camera in it then...
El Reg vs. Indy
I noticed that the Independent has modified their story and no longer refers to El Reg as a gay on-line mag. Did you get a letter of apology?
I would like to point out, though, that while growing up in the 'merkin southwest in the mid-80s, there were certain social types ('jocks') who felt that electronics in general and computers in particular were 'gay'.
Whether said sporty types were prophets or idiots we'll leave to the Independent's readership to decide.
So, gay men from Lesbos can tick both boxes on the form then ...
Paris, because she always ticks both boxes
So a word goes into common usage to describe something, and the legal system supports it, instead of handing down a pointless and unenforceable ruling about how people use their own language.
Ok, in this case, it wasn't a trademark (Hoover, Zip, Fridge etc) but the point about common usage and the evolution of language is the same.
Of course, if they had won, then it would have opened the gates to all sorts of stupid similar cases - the one that springs to mind is the English speaking world getting the word "Gay" put back to it's original meaning. It's just not going to work. Ever.
Good for the courts. Although I am very grateful to the Mytilenians for bringing the case - the opportunity for so... many... jokes...
Mine's the one with the dictionary in the pocket.
aw go on go on go on go on..
"El Reg is not a lesbian online magazine"
I always knew that there was something missing from the Reg... :)
Paris for the obvious regions... erm regions...
" Our interrest "
" Our interest in the matter is purely legal, except for a couple of the Vulture Central adsales boys, whose interest in the matter is strictly illegal."
< ahem >
Not to mention tickle the funny bone till all the vultures
are in a heap , laughing their asses off so much they
couldnt lick a stamp to save their lives .
Which i still cant .. medics tell me ill stop laughing
around 2010 where they will be able to try make a
rescue attempt ..
Good day .
This is(n't) Sparta!
Hmmm... A _Greek_ gentleman who has problems with grrls... Hmmm.
I'm on my way out, no need to push...
I know this extreme porn thing is a bit of a worry but you're doing it tough in the UK if a man's sacred right to ogle a bit of girl/girl action is now illegal.
pass the kleenex
I laughed so hard when I read the headline, I was in tears...
I made a few xeroxes to post about the office.
A political angle
Perhaps lesbians the world over will now flock to Lesbos as the promised island, grab power, claim sovereignity, expel the natives, and seek to influence the foreign policy of the USA.
Re: Dumb idea
"Of course, if they had won, then it would have opened the gates to all sorts of stupid similar cases - the one that springs to mind is the English speaking world getting the word "Gay" put back to it's original meaning."
A) There's no group of people in the UK that use the word "gay" to define themselves, apart from the obvious.
B) Despite what the old fuddy-duddies might claim, the word "gay" has always had a sexual connotation, suggesting someone quite freely indulgent in the pleasures of the flesh. Of course, this was originally non-gender-specific.
Alliteration, sexual insinuation whilst staying relevant. More of this sort of thing.
A title is required.
Well, dip me in honey and throw me to the lesbians!
€230? For this much entertainment? I've been offered worse deals...
I say we have a whip-round and raise some cash so they can mount an appeal.
(huh, uhu, huh, I said "mount" ... )
Re: illegal ineterest?
>if a man's sacred right to ogle a bit of girl/girl action is now illegal.
I think you'll find that everything is now illegal in the UK. If you ever go there don't breathe to deeply otherwise you'll be arrested for stealing air.
Like "lesbian" is somehow insulting.
Mistaken, maybe. Funy? If you're juvenile? Insulting? Only if you're some kind of bigot could you consider it insulting.
Right, now that's out of the way...
When does it become compulsory?
In a flap over nothing
Great headline, but for those wondering about the IT angle might I suggest: Secure Socket Layer.
How many nails in a lesbians(TM) coffin?
None, its all tongue and groove.
The toolbelt, ta.
That rather depends if it's in a magazine or through a gap in next door's curtains.
What are the philosophical implications?
Maybe I'm older than I thought....
...but I was under the impression that this was solved decades ago, like in the '70s. Correct me if you must, but I thought this fight had been fought and the ruling was that the gay women would use the word "lesbian" and the islanders would use the word "lesbosian".
No confusion there, eh?
That's choice, Sam. ...tongue and groove. Made my day.
"what if you're a gay woman from Lesbos.... then what do you call yourself?"
Baby, Please don't go ....... You know I love you So
"I will have to take my "straight man wanting to watch lesbians battle it out over the best OS" readership elsewhere... (Perhaps WIRED is better for this hmmm)" ... By Anon Koward Posted Wednesday 23rd July 2008 11:56 GMT
I think it would be a safe bet to imagine El Reg Readership preferring a Proliferation of Content with a Wired Parallel for Research and Recreation, rather than DeCamping Wholesale.
There are Important Lessons for Man to Learn said a spokesman.
Virtually Vital lamented a spokeswoman.
"Well, dip me in honey and throw me to the lesbians!" ....By Matthew
Posted Wednesday 23rd July 2008 13:07 GMT
This thread is to your taste and liking, Matthew? :-) Very Popular Ladies are Lesbians and aint that the Truth.
RE @ A political angle
No, we have San Francisco for that.
...headline, and the one about tongue and groove.
@ Chris W
">if a man's sacred right to ogle a bit of girl/girl action is now illegal.
I think you'll find that everything is now illegal in the UK. If you ever go there don't breathe to deeply otherwise you'll be arrested for stealing air."
That's utter nonsense and you know it - he'll just get an Anti-Social Behaviour Order and that's only if he's forgotten his combined Oyster Card/Respiration Licence.
Theres also an import duty on the CO2 he'll exhale as he enters the country.
I hear talk that..
...lesbians all around the world are now demanding that men known as 'Leslie' now NOT be referred to as 'Les' as this can be quite confusing in the workplace and has led to a few sticky moments...
...mines the one with 'Fire Fighter' on the back, as I wait for the flames.....
The IT angle
If Lesbians can get people to call lesbians sapphists the perhaps hackers can get clueless journalists stop writing 'hackers' when they mean 'crackers'. I thought the hacker/cracker argument was well and truly lost, but I distinctly remember Wallace did not say "We have forgotten the hackers Grommit!"
BTW: I thought the island was called something like Λεσβοσ anyway.
"but... what if you're a gay woman from Lesbos.... then what do you call yourself? I guess anything you want."
Adrianna Thanatopoulos, or so I've heard.
Whoops - just set the cat among the pigeons in the local taverna!
@El Reg vs. Indy
"while growing up in the 'merkin"
You grew up in a pubic wig?
honey won't work, Matt
You can dip yourself in the rarest Tasmanian red clover honey, but you still won't be the belle of the, er, ball.
A gay woman from Lesbos doesn't have to call herself anything. She can just lean against the bar and the lesbian tourists will all be buying her drinks.
but lesbos is where lesbians started
... hence the name... they used to have almost all women religious/spiritual groups who would go the impressive cliffs in Lesbos and party/pray. This was around the time of the ancient greek civilisation so er what exactly is the problem here.
(reference: some local guide when i was on holiday there. Dissappointingly I failed to see many lesbians in Lesbos, no lipstick lesbians... not even the lumberjack+doc martin ones).
Seems to me that this guy has got fed up of all the lesbian jokes and wants the law to change history for him.
Has my vote for best article title ever
amanfromMars is starting to make sense....should I just take a lie down or drink more?
Re: when did it become compulsory?
Right after they decide to cut human carbon emissions by 80%
Stop breading and the problem will go away
Re; Stop breading and the problem will go away
What's loaf got to do with it?
@ Dazed and Confused
well, yes, a halt on baked goods would lead to a useful cut of third world populations by starvation, but perhaps that was a slip of the tounge (the one covered in cinnamon thanks..)
@Dazed and Confused
>Stop breading and the problem will go away
I prefer mine covered in batter.
Ging Gang Goolie Goolie Goolie
Perhaps we can look forward to the people of Goole (Yorks), trying to get exclusive use of the word "Goolies"
Great article title
The author of the title is truly a cunning linguist.
Embrace the Lesbians
Nothing patches up a spat like dripping moist cash...the island should use the publicity of this farce to launch a travel program to invite lesbians to visit their adopted "homeland." A few billion in tourist dollars should smooth over any nomenclature friction. I'm getting excited just thinking about the advertising campaign.
Tsk, tsk <pulls goatee thoughtfully>
"Please note: El Reg is not a lesbian online magazine."
Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Besides, "Lester" is a pretty strange name for a girly-girl. Are you sure you didn't mean "Let's 'er"? [Yes, it's a lame joke, esp. compared to the brilliant tongue and groove one.]
Special bonus for the intellectually inclined, a quote from the great poetess Sappho (whence "sapphist"), the first known lesbian:
"If you're squeamish, don't prod the beach rubble."
Is ET allowed to have fun with PROMIS/LIONS ?
Truly a missed opportunity. Or was it?
The good folk at Lesbos should embrace their name. Think of all the opportunity marketing tourism to DINK (double income no kids) Mytilenian couples.
While they are at it, they could also market to lager louts hoping to turn poor strayed lassies back to the true path of hetero lust (their beer bellies will no doubt help). 2 for the price of 1.
But... maybe that was the point of going to court in the first case? They were sure to lose and look stupid but this could have just been a Trojan to raise the island's profile to Phallic proportions. Bit like Borat did for K'stan.
OK, time for the island of Phallus to take folks to court to stop being called dicks. Good way to lure San Franciscan guys (just taking any random city) to their beaches.
Paris, cuz she sure would look hot in a lez 2some.
Not a Lesbian website..
I thought it would have been obvious: it's theregister.co.uk address not a theregister.com.gr.
Must be all Greek to them.
So will the good people of lesbos borrow the flag ship "Georgious Avaroff" and use it to repel the evil eye of those who have stolen the good name of the island in question ?