a 486 DX 33 IBM PS/Valuepoint running 3.11

It boots is seconds - much faster than XP or Ubuntu on my Prescott, and the keyboard (IBM M Series FTW) is still in daily use...

They dont build them like that any more...

Any relevance in the use of a German WfW logo?

If there is, I'll guess that it is used in the FIA approved F1 ECUs.

Mines the M&S fake uniform....

I remember using 3.1 ... It worked! Just...

Oh the school days...

...I remember the happy day I _upgraded_ to this operating system! We'd only briefly been on 3.1 after a long spell on 3.0 (you may recall the extra 0.01 added tentative 32-bit-ness and an insistance on running in 386 protected mode). It wasn't that long ago! Was it?! Am I that old already?!

I remember the 'joys' of using an Apricot Qi and Windows 286 in the late eighties

"everyone who actually remembers using this operating system is long gone"

I used 3.11 during my first year at Uni and I'm only 29!

Speaking as someone who deals with Xerox daily, that doesn't surprise me.

***"But there will be few mourners: everyone who actually remembers using this operating system is long gone. "***

Only if we implement Carousel.

If you understand that, then you should remember remember the Apple 1, let alone any version of Windows.

"But there will be few mourners: everyone who actually remembers using this operating system is long gone."

I'd really like to know where I've gone to? Can anybody tell me? If you know, please reply, as I'd like to find myself!!!

(Yes, I know, I'm a sarcastic Ba****d - I just can't help it!)

Paris - because she doesn't know where I am either!

Bah, I started with Windows 2 on 8088's then we got the super duper 8086's!

I like Geoworks a lot better. That was one sweet GUI.

"Any relevance in the use of a German WfW logo?"

I though Windows Fur Workgroups was the standard in Glasgow.

The computer system that is used to diagnose the Patriot Missile systems made use of Windows 3.1 as of 2003 when I finished my contract with the US Army. I guess it sort of goes along with the Stealth Bomber upgrades.... Maybe they were trying out the "security through obscurity" approach.

You mean there has been an upgrade?

imagine what it would be like running windows 3.11 on todays dual core machines

I'm 22, and I remember using 3.11 when I was 8 on my Tandon NB286/SX laptop. I've still got it somewhere. Whilst 3.11 isn't anywhere as full featured as XP/Vista or even Win95 it had a certain charm, it was so quick and simple.

Paris because she isn't afraid to mourn the loss of 3.11

You can still use it in DosBox and I know place that was still using it up until about 18 months ago. Once again the MS PR men telling us the "truth" rather getting out and asking the ground troops, who support their crud, what is actually happening in the real world.

Remember using it!!!! Christ I remember having to write applications for it.

I've started feeling a little funny, I'm gonna have to get my coat and go have a lie down....................

MS new the difference between an OS and a GUI

What do you mean 'gone'?

The f*cking arrogance of the youth of today!

Put you baseball cap on (backwards) and p1ss off back to school!

Remember it well, was a leap forward. I'm still alive and working.

School!!! I remember setting up, or trying to setup, a workgroup <shudder> MS Mail anyone??

DX33, huh! Before the days of clock doubling? I recall having a big conversation with a man from Intel as to whether "the one to recommend to our 'high-end' customers" was the DX50 or the DX2-66... still not sure the answer I got was the right one!

Paris - cos she knows all about embedding!

:-)

We've still got a customer that uses it daily.

A couple of years ago he had a hardware fault on his mobo, so he's now running a 15 year old OS on 5 year old hardware!

Had to try to remember the commands for installing a CD drive - old machine didn't have one, new (second hand) does... oh the memories of mscdex.exe, autoexec.bat, config.sys, etc etc.

Does the job, bloody well!

From the days when microsoft actually produced decent software, needing a mere 3 floppy disks for the OS.

I vote for a nostagia icon!!

Happy memories <\sarcasm> of moving to a Win 3.11 platform from mainframes and laughing myself sick at the memory model.

Vale.

My claim to fame at that time was creating a standardised platform for an office of 20/30 users using 3.11. It was installed on a Netware server mapped drive and the PCs had no local copy. They booted to Dos, connected to the network, and then ran Win.bat which pointed them to this shared installation. The server RAID array was quicker than their local HDDs, so it loaded really quick and their desktop was always the same, locked down. Office was on there too.

The performance and stability was no different to running locally, with the advantage that it was centrally managed.

Who said you couldn't do cool things in those days (on a shoestring too)?

Oh dear am I really that old?

Nice to see there are a few other old fuddy duddies around who remember this truely ancient software.

I remember my next-door-neighbour coming in and telling me about this wonderful Windows for Workgroups which allowed you to share files with each other. He was amazed.

Of course, as I was using Sun workstations at work with X-windows on them, and had been for several years, I couldn't quite see what all the excitement was about.

(And frankly, I still don't understand how Windows can work so badly. Why can't I run a program on my PC, and launch the display onto another PC without having to use special software?)

"imagine what it would be like running windows 3.11 on todays dual core machines"

probably like using linux. but shit.

Actually, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 shipped on 8 floppies, (maybe you're thinking of 3.1) but you only used the last 2 disks if you had a network card in the machine.

Remember 3.11? I remember designing hardware for it to run on! Damn, I'm so old...

Whereas workstations had adopted GUIs and multi-tasking quickly, PCs were still mostly text-based single-taskers when Windows 3 came along. At the time Windows (and previously DR GSX) were a bit of an oddity rather than mainstream. I remember people who saw Windows 3 for the first time saying "wow, this will change everything" - and it did.

Respect for the old girl, she led the mass adoption of graphical user interfaces on PCs. What am I bid for my original set of install floppies?

Dusted off MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 recently. I needed Corel Draw 3 which I found wasn't on my system any more. Now although CD3 will run on Windows 2000 (my main system) it will only *install* under 16-bit incarnations otherwise it hangs up wondering why installing a true type font doesn't create a .FOT file.

Installation went OK and now I'm keeping DOS and Windows 3.1 on my FAT-16 format C: drive and made several copies of the boot floppy.

So another old system lives on inside my PC box, joining the (emulated) Amstrad CPC464 dual-floppy system.

Icon of another old dual-floppy system

And just starting to develop my love for technology (errr not in that way) Ah win 3.1

Used it on a tosh laptop first (my home PC ran DOS and did not have enough RAM or processor horsepower to run Windows.

Thought it was the best thing since err bread till a few years later when I tinkered with it on a laptop I was given and realised what a pain it must have been to administer but it tought me a lot.

Next incarnation was on a network at secondary school with all the desktops running via remote boot ROMs using a BNC ring and RM LAN Manager.

People had to log on one at a time or the server would just fall over, it would also have a lie down if you opened more than application, I did that a few times and brought the network to a grinding halt!

Ah those were the days!

Not sure why it or Windows for Workgroups was ever embeded in anything though.

"everyone who actually remembers using this operating system is long gone"

I'm aged 26 and remember it well... and Windows 3.0... DOS 4... and I've still got all the disks and manuals... ah the days when a PC had a "Turbo" button on the front to give you those extra 3 Mhz when playing Duke Nukem or Castle Wolfenstein.

It was a GUI add-on for DOS.