The iPhone 2.0 update - don't do it, kids
Thomas Hook
Yup, really dont do it. #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 16:29 GMT

I was full of glee to have iTunes tell me the new amazing software was ready, Download went fine and the firmware installation was smooth enough, but then came the horror. Upon iTunes trying to do anything with the phone it comes up saying 'iTunes store connection timed out, we are unable to process your request'. All the poor little iPhone can do is sit there telling me to connect it to iTunes...oh and make emergency calls. Do you think 'Apple Support' are available on 999?
Josh Hawken
Just got away with it #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

After 15 minutes sat there clicking back to the screen, managed to get through - then took about 30 mins to go through the install process and reload all the stuff onto my phone. The 'Jesus' in Jesus phone certainly being used in the pejorative sense today!!!
Ioannis Mavroukakis
Too **** late #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

I wonder what flavour of crack they are smoking..48 hours indeed!!! Are they going to refund me for 48 hours worth of lost service?? Not bloody likely!!
Steve Kay
Epic FAIL #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

Microsoft's Steve Ballmer is juggling Zunes in glee.
Nokia's Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo is balancing N96s on his nose while clapping his hands.
HTC's Cher Wang is throwing celebratory Diamond Touches out of her office window.
Could Apple and O2 have fucked up the introduction of the iPhone 3G to the British any more than they already have?
If Steve Jobs and Cesar Alierta haven't demanded heads on plates and new orofices for some of the worst product release planning and management known, then it's only a matter of time. This is fucking embarrassing.
Also, why is it that three tech chieftains all have references to men's bits as names? BALLmer, Olli-PEKKA, and WANG.
M Devonport
Bought games but no firmware all day... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

I've not been able to get the iPod Touch firmware down all day even though I managed to buy some apps and be charged for them.
Firstly the update wasn't available anywhere, then they updated their website with a link around lunch but returned 'itunes store currently unavailable' until late this afternoon when the sync section in itunes updated me to say it was available but that also returned the same messages. After a while I simply got timeout's waiting for response, followed by itunes telling me the software was now upto date seemingly forgetting that it just knew about the 2.0 software update.
I want my software damn it, I've already paid for the apps.
Jon Hume
iPaperweight #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

I have a shiny iPhone which was delivered to me while I was at work. Just got home and plugged it in and at the moment it is sitting around sulking like its owner ... I understand it is a massive worldwide launch but maybe they could have sacrificed a little bit of their control over what sim you put in the handset in exchange for the people who have purchased them actually being able to use the thing? Surely if they knew how many phones they had made they could therefore calculate what system resources would be required to register and activate all of them? Whoever did the calculations to estimate how many people would try and do it at the same time really messed up ...
Michael C
why i did it yesterday #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT
I knew it was going to be a cluster-frack today, so I got the leaked firmware and updates yesterday afternoon, and was happily running 2.0 and playing games on my iPhone with little trouble at all. I wouldn't go near apple's site for 3-4 days at this point...
Dana W
I agree, Wait till tomorrow. #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:05 GMT

It took me about two hours to get my phone back on.
I'm a big Apple/Mac booster and even "I" agree. Do NOT update your phone for a day or two.
On the bright side this means they are getting a LOT more sales than they imagined. they must be getting hit by an activationwave that makes the first one look tiny by comparison.
Martin
All the smart kids #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:16 GMT

installed it on Thursday when macrumours published the link to the firmware file, thus avoiding all this palaver
Saint Jobs, because he wouldn't ever let down his baying mob of fans
Tim J
It's called the cutting edge because you end up being lacerated. #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:32 GMT

Wait till next week. Simple.
netean
no jailbreak yet #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:32 GMT

also, if you want to jailbreak your iphone or ipod touch you'll have to wait a bit.
personally I'm not upgrading itunes nor my touch for as long as I possibly can. ITunes sucks enough and don't see any reason to pay even more money to apply just so I can download the odd application.
Kenny Millar
Usually a huge apple fan, but not today #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:32 GMT

How the hell can they get away with such a shambolic product launch?
The press (including el Reg) should be tearing strips off them.
Not only does iTunes barf when trying to access the v2.0 OS for iPod touch, half the time it also tells you that v1.1.4 is the latest version anyway!
On top of that, www.mac.com and www.me.com have been up and down like a whore's pants all day.
Anonymous Coward
CPW Orders after 3.30pm lost / delayed due to IT issue? #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:38 GMT

I have just been on the phone to CPW and they can not find my order placed yesterday at 8pm for delivery on Sat!
J Welek
Bleeding edge... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 17:41 GMT

Comes with the territory - Don't you guys know that by now? ;)
It was a fair bet that Jesus phone was going to cause chaos somewhere during launch. I'm gonna wait a few weeks until service/supply/bugs have been sorted - and I've ditched my current provider...
For those of you who sneaked in early - Congrats! :D
pctechxp
Funny how.... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT
These kinds of problems never extend to the systems that allow them to charge your card isn't it?
Perhaps MasterCard/Visa/Amex/[insert missing payment scheme here] run the world's most reliable systems? Maybe they could scrap card surcharges and charge consultency fees for providing advice to Apple and O2
TheMadProfessor
Title errm? Lord Lucan? #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT

@AC CPW order...
Placed your order Thursday? that's nowt!, placed mine on Monday and they've still lost it...and I held off the upgrade for a couple of months waiting for it!
I only grew concerned because I got not one but two calls from their sales this morning from them asking if I wanted to upgrade to it...could have been waiting in tomorrow, little suspecting..
Bllleeeerrrrrghhhhhhh!
Paris because...well because, really
Jamester
Took about 45 minutes #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT
Of lots of clicking to get iTunes to connect and return control of my phone to me, but now its up all works swimmingly.
Mike Richards
This is shambolic #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT
And this time Apple have to take the blame.
I got the original iPhone back in November and getting that working was less smooth than it should be. I assumed they would have noticed the long delays in getting to iTunes last year and geared up accordingly. But no, today's upgrade to 2.0 is even worse.
@ Ioannis above. Good point I wonder if they'll refund people who can't use their paid-for service because of this shambles.
@ Kenny above. Yup .Mac/Mobile Me/Me is up, down, up, down, up, down. Mail is still working, but nothing else.
Next time guys - stagger these events. Firmware release BEFORE a new product launch to keep existing customers happy. And don't bugger round with a vital service at the same time.
Thank God the Reg is still working, it'd be like the 19th Century here if I didn't know everyone else was watching the iPhones go out one by one.
nforcemac
Wtf..... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT

Just been to Bluewater in Kent and was told by an o2 staff member that everything was fine and they could sell me a 3G iPhone no problems..... what makes this worse is that the spotty yoof that said this to me didn't even know what I meant when I said 'aren't your servers down?'
'eh?' was basically the reply I got......
Paris just because....
Webster Phreaky
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .... TOO FUNNY Kool Aid Drinkers!! #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 18:29 GMT

Tell us now (and again and again, because this IS an all too FREQUENT tale) about how wonderful and pure and perfect and Apple never makes mistakes, is now!! You know AppleTards, Apple itself is it own worst enemy in its iPhony reputation of superiority; except all the media whores never report the FACTS.
But the BEST part is that all you AppleTards get what you deserve when the self inflicted Apple POS "Virus" bites you right in your own self-righteous arrogant asses.
Apple is like Barack Hussein Obama - Hope, Change and a lot of other iPhony BullShit. Are YOU learning to speak Spanish because you should be embarrassed, lefties? Naw, you should be learning Simplified Chinese because that's where all your Apple labeled crap comes from.
Andy Gibb
I never knew it could be so good #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 19:33 GMT

All my mobile phones in the past have been so boring. Now I have my 3G iBrick I can spend hours on the computer clicking on buttons playing the thrilling game, "try to make your phone work".
And if I get suicidal I can make an emergency call on on my iBrick. Fantastic.
The GPS is excellent too - although I can't use it I know I haven't moved from my desk in over three hours. Cool!
I hope the next version of iTunes has a counter so you can see how many times you've failed to activate your iBrick - that way you can have even more fun trying to beat your past scores of" attempts per minute".
Oh and as for all the "bleading edge" comments - this is not a new product - its a slightly updated version of an existing product.
Think you can use that new iPhone sport? Think Different!
Haviland
Neener neener #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 19:33 GMT

Upgraded to version 2 firmware this morning, took 15 minutes, now my iPhone buzzes every couple of minutes as mail hits my Exchange account.
Take /that/, Blackberry users :-)
Ian Ferguson
I don't think I'll do it JUST yet... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 19:33 GMT

...as I'm just going abroad for three weeks with my iPhone being my sole feed of news, internet, email and phone calls.
Oh, and I've stuffed it full of novels to read on a jailbreak reader app - somehow I'm suspecting the 2.0 firmware will break all my nice third party bits and pieces.
J Welek
Easy... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 19:33 GMT

@pctechxp: Probably because every failed transaction is a sale lost. When your direct income is on the line, I would imagine you'd pour a whole load of money into server resources - A serious load.
@webster phreaky: Get a life you noob - I mean, seriously.
bigfoot780
Well... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:16 GMT

I'm not a fanboy but like my iphone (1G). So i thought wow when I get in from work I'll update the firmware. My iphone is sitting there patiently for the 1.1.4 to get it back working after the 2.0 failed. Come on apple usually your launches of new software/hardware are fine. This reaks of memories of Steam and dare I say it Windows Vista.
Anonymous Coward
@Webster Phreaky #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:17 GMT

I'm no Apple fanboi, but I'm tempted to go buy the full spectrum of Apple products now and ditch my PCs. The reason? If Webster Phreaky uses a PC, they can't be any good. Webster, you are a Phool. Perhaps for your 15th birthday your right to an opinion can be reinstated; for now it should be suspended. The rest of your flame-inciting comments aren't worth a rebuttal. Peace.
Dale
Possible Fix for Iphone 2.0 #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:17 GMT
PHONE 2.0 FIX - IPHONE 2.0 FIX IPHONE 2.0 FIX
I have been having the same problem as just about everybody else. I have however found what I think is a fix. Open up I tunes then click on “edit” then “Preferences” then the last tab “Syncing” and click on “Reset Sync History” and then again on “Reset Sync History” to confirm. That has done the trick for myself and I have just phoned round a few friends who were all experiencing the same problem and its solved it for them too. Good Luck!
IPHONE 2.0 FIX - IPHONE 2.0 FIX IPHONE 2.0 FIX
Michael Smet
IT WORKED... I THINK #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:18 GMT

I recieved all the same errors everyone else did with this Stupid Iphone Update thing. It told me it couldn't reach the store and then It Restored my Iphone. Funny, but when It finished restoring my Iphone I got the Updated Calculator, Apps Store, Contact List ... ETC.
I'm a little confused... it said it didn't work... but it worked...
Is anyone else getting the same issue?
MIKE
Svein Skogen
In comparision #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:18 GMT

We all have seen how windowsupdate fails once a month, haven't we? Hmm? No?
Seems I did a good thing getting the Diamond instead. But I did this because I have once had the "pleasure" of needing to communicate with what apple CALLS a "service-department". I didn't get any service. In fact I got what could only be called inverted service. So horrible was their attitude that I promised myself never to get any apple product again, and to warn everybody who would listen to me about this company. This was when I discovered that Apple isn't a brand mark, but the icon of a dangerous cult, and they believe anybody who doesn't blindly praise St. Jobs like a S.P. (Think Scientology)
Apple as a company MAY be ok, but their cultists should be locked up until they start taking their medicines.
//Svein
heystoopid
Oh well #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:23 GMT

Oh well , this puts credence to the sayings since the halcyon days when Apple 2 ruled the waves until it was torpedoed by the Boca Raton mob with it's very much cheaper multiple Chinese built clones that changed the landscape to that which we know today , along with the fact the very much larger open source mob do not have the same problem as the control freaks with every finger and toes in the pie mob at Cupertino central !
"A Cupertino fan is easily fleeced of their money in buckets !"
As Nelson would say " Ha ! Ha! "
Simon
Bloody CPW #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:25 GMT

Consider youself lucky you've even got something to brick. Ordered my iPhone from CPW yesterday lunchtime, got receipt and confirmation. Found out today that they accidentally sent it to the local branch, despite all the receipts and confirmations saying it was being delivered to my house. Went to the store, and they can't find it. Not only that, but I can't cancel my order because the department that does that sort of thing is closed, which means I can't walk down the road to O2 and buy one there. It's an absolute shambles, and the CPW customer service is easily the worse I've ever dealt with. So far, I've spent 30 minutes on the phone with the courier, 45 minutes on hold with CPW, and hour + in the store and I still don't have the damn phone. What's more, the store is out of stock, CPW online is out of stock, so there's no prospect of even getting one for 2 weeks.
Michael Smet
I tried :( --- Phone Restored itself #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:25 GMT

The software downloaded like it should have, but wouldn't finish instialling like this posting stated, it simply said that the network couldn't be reached, check your internet connection. I was a little disapointed in apple at this one. I checked my connection... Fine... I contacted the apple store through Itunes.. Fine.
You would think that apple would have seen this comming. Maybe Next time.
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Michael
Rolf Howarth
Mine still works :-) #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 20:29 GMT

Well, my iPhone still works just as well as it did yesterday, or last week come to that. In other words, exceedingly well.
Sure, I'm curious to try out the new app store, and I'll probably buy a new 3G iPhone at some point in the next week or two (if only to keep my mum quiet, who's been pestering me non-stop that she wants my old phone), but I definitely don't mind waiting a few days until the fuss dies down!
Simon Langley
Mine worked fine #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 21:02 GMT

I got my shiny new 3G iPhone this morning and I managed to d/l the latest iTunes and activate it without any problem on my MacBook Pro.
Everyone I've shown it to has been coming out with comments like "wow", "fantastic", "that's soooo cool" etc. Suck on that webster phreaky (no doubt another Vista-using saddo who is fed up of Apple out-doing M$ at every turn recently).
Shalroth
I'm desperate... #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 21:17 GMT
...to buy the 2.0 software for my Touch, but have been unable since I started trying at around 18:30BST. At first I got 'iTunes music store not available' or the wonderfully vague '-4' errors, but now they've given up even telling me there's a problem.
It's almost like they don't want me to spend the £10 store credit I got from KRCS over a bodged AppleCare repair on my G5 iMac...
James Margetts
Hahahaha! #
Posted Friday 11th July 2008 23:45 GMT

Do you think 'Apple Support' are available on 999?
Apple have a support department?
Anonymous Coward
I'm leaving this pub #
Posted Saturday 12th July 2008 00:08 GMT

Anyone know of a pub round here devoid of Apple/Windows/Linux fanbois and haterz?
This whole thing is getting just a leeeetle old...
Mine's the one with the pinch in the pocket...
Graham Lockley
Oi you noobs #
Posted Saturday 12th July 2008 16:05 GMT
Seem to be a lot of new readers here, ones who dont know the basic rule...
DONT PHEED TEH PHREAKY
Along with Amanfrommars, Webster is an institution round here. Its always amusing to watch someone rising to his bait :)
@ Haviland
>Upgraded to version 2 firmware this morning, took 15 minutes, now my iPhone buzzes every couple of minutes as mail hits my Exchange account.
>Take /that/, Blackberry users :-)
So BejasusPhone users caught up with 90% of the mobile market and have something that Nokia/HTC/Samsung/Rim etc. have been offering for ages? Not sure thats something to crow about...
Julian Garrett
And when it doesn't sell, for the same reasons as last time #
Posted Saturday 12th July 2008 16:26 GMT
They will drop their prices. Shit, I thought Apple put SOME value on what customers thought, obviously not.
If this is the way operators are going to treat their customers, this iPhone will flop just like the last one did (outside of America). Purses are being tightened and people know what extortion is when they see it.
I was going to buy one but I am off to get an N95 instead... better phone too.
Anonymous Coward
bits & Bobs #
Posted Saturday 12th July 2008 16:26 GMT

> Also, why is it that three tech chieftains all have references
> to men's bits as names? BALLmer, Olli-PEKKA, and WANG.
Don't forget St. Steve hisself: what, after all, is a "Steve JOB"? Prolly something that gets done to one of those BALLs, PEKKAs, or WANGs...
SRS
Stay away for a while... #
Posted Saturday 12th July 2008 16:26 GMT

It's all been a mess hasn't it?
Huge queues outside the London Old Broad Street O2 store, but no-one can activate; Horrible upgrade experience for existing iPhone users: when I tried to upgrade my phone to 2.0 last night, the upgrade failed with some obscure error number - not even a decent message - surely some shoddy coding there, Apple.
Then the upgrade servers went down. And came up again. And went down.
To get my phone back to life, I had to restore it through iTunes - so a 25 minute wait for the 1.1.4 software to be downloaded from Apple (why isn't it already on my iMac? Who knows), click to agree the 1.1.4 license, then the phone sat spinning for 1/2 hour, then... it came to back to life with 2.0 software. So why the 1.1.4 download? Go figure.
This morning (surely I need to get a life) I tried downloading the Remote App. The iPhone won't download it, saying I have to go back to iTunes to check for purchases. So I tried this and... the App Store isn't available. And still isn't available some 8 hours later.
Not Apple's finest moment.
Rob Moss
Oh my god #
Posted Sunday 13th July 2008 12:36 GMT

Why on earth is everyone so het up about all of this? Chill out a bit. Okay, so it's not Apple's finest hour. But they'll fix it because they have to. So your phone is out of action for, what, a couple of days? Big deal. Go outside, get some fresh air, enjoy your temporary freedom from that pesky boss and that pesky wife. It's no catastrophe. It's a blip. The fact remains that 90-odd percent of Apple customers think that the company provides them with products they love at a price they're more than willing to pay and offers them good enough service that they keep going back and they recommend them to their friends - and this will do nothing to change that. Most companies would kill to be in that position - would Microsoft take a two day outage to make people love Vista? I think so...
Thumbs down for the fanbois, the fanboi-baiters and all the people who think that because Apple got something wrong it's probably the end of the world and it's at least time for a huge rant.
Steve Goodman
Worked fine here... #
Posted Sunday 13th July 2008 12:36 GMT

Other half got hers yesterday afternoon, activated via iTunes (had to try a couple of times though) and she's very, very, very happy.
One thing about the adverts if you've seen them.... "GPS mapping like you've never seen before" - Google maps with GPS has been on Windows Mobile devices for ages... and really isn't that good. It's the only thing so far that's disappointed her on the device to be honest.
jeremy
loss of calling services???? #
Posted Sunday 13th July 2008 12:36 GMT

So for whatever reason Apple cant update your phone AND THAT TAKES AWAY YOUR CALLING FACILITY - THIS IS SHOCKING AND SCARY!!!
A phone is a phone and should make calls first and foremost, that is how alot of my work communication happens, so that i can pay for iPhones and the like.
Mission Critical i would say yet a complete noob to the phone market comes along and does this yet people seem to think this is OK.
If you cant keep the basic phone work stick with making iTouches instead of iPhones.And in the least flame inviting way, it does kind of serve you all right for believing the hype and piling in on day one. I never install a new linux distro on day one.
Anonymous Coward
Oh dear... #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 07:24 GMT

Well, after downloading the firmware update on Friday, after work, I too experienced the iBrick effect. I tried everything disconnecting/reconnecting the phone, flushing the DNS, the lot. No joy. I was just left with the 999 call option.
As luck would have it, in a weird way, my young son woke me up for more milk at 3:30 am and so I decided to disconnect/reconnect again and yes, it worked. So I also did my wife's iPhone at the same time.
The only lasting effect is that it reset the timezone to Cupertino, on both handsets! Nice to see those mac boys do their testing so well...
And for all you Mac lovers, i have a 24" iMac and a Mac Book Air, both of which I have happily installed with Vista. Enjoy!!! :o)
Shell
Careful, Restore may eat your phone... #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 08:51 GMT

So, I managed to actually upgrade my phone on Friday, but had to snatch it from the dock before it went through the restore stage - hey the pub is more important, right? So when I finally got home (several hours later, ahem) I plugged it into my trust Mac and managed after about 30 minutes to get it activated. Lovely. Installed lots of cute apps (the Facebook app is ace! And the AIM client is... dangerous), all worked perfectly. So of course, I get back to the office early this morning, and plug my phone into the dock here to give it a charge... and it promptly wipes the phone of all my apps, and everything else I'd done on it over the weekend. Stupid restore runs without asking!!! Talk about blood dumb software :( So off I go downloading and installing all those apps again. And I hope I didn't get any important SMS over the weekend...
Shell
@Steve Goodman #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 08:51 GMT

The GPS *is* something new: all your photos are automatically geotagged, and the phone allows Apps to be aware of where the phone is and behave accordingly. There are already some apps that ping other phones nearby for social networky stuff. It's both scary and cool. Tried one App on sunday that looks for other iPhones close by and shares "moods" with them. I have no idea what new level of useless waste of time this is, but it has a unique Apple twist :P
Oliver Jones
@Rob Moss #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 08:51 GMT

"Why on earth is everyone so het up about all of this? Chill out a bit. Okay, so it's not Apple's finest hour. But they'll fix it because they have to. So your phone is out of action for, what, a couple of days? Big deal. Go outside, get some fresh air, enjoy your temporary freedom from that pesky boss and that pesky wife. It's no catastrophe. It's a blip."
For you, it might be just a blip. For many people, not being available on the phone when you're required to be can be cause for discipline - or it could even be a breach of contract that could result in you getting fired.
Heaven help you if you ever needed to dial the emergency services and were unable to because your phone was just "having a blip". What's the point in having a mobile phone if you can't rely on the service provision?
Jared Earle
@Oliver Jones #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 10:17 GMT
Even if your phone is 'bricked' (not really bricked in this case as it's running, but not authorised), you can still make emergency calls on it.
For anyone that is contracted to be available on a phone, just put the SIM in their backup. If you're supposed to be available, you've got a spare phone, right? If not, why are you playing with firmware upgrades on a weekend?
TeeCee
@heystoopid #
Posted Monday 14th July 2008 10:43 GMT

'As Nelson would say " Ha ! Ha! " '
A quick review of historical record in the light of this little fact gives such gems as:
"I see no ships! Ha! Ha!"
"England confides that every man shall do his duty"; "Excuse me sir, but 'confides' is not in the signal book and must be spelled. May I substitute 'expects'?"; "Ha! Ha!"
"Kiss me Ha-Ha-Hardy."