Flying cars on the horizon, says Clive Sinclair
David Haig
RAF R&D outsourced .... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:51 GMT

To Sinclair Research. On the day the new Typhoon is announced, the project to find the next generation of fighter aircraft is awarded to Sir Clive 'Blue Sky' Sinclair.
Anonymous Coward
Oh dear #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:51 GMT

I fear the future of transport is horse-drawn...
Kenneth Ross
It had to be, hadn't it. A C5 with wings! #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:51 GMT
I read the headline. I thought of the comment. I scrolled down the article. I saw the picture.
And now I know. The Register are in league with Echelon, black helicopters and every other conspiracy out there.
YOU READ MY THOUGHTS
Anonymous Coward
Yikes! #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

Half the drivers on the road have enough difficulty coping with what is in font of them and behind them.
Now we're going to give them the added burden of having to worry about what is above and below them?
Evil Graham
Bloody slaphead #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

Maybe it's just me, but I can't stand the bloke. He personifies everything that was ever wrong with the British electronics industry and I'm not just talking about the C5.
Everything he ever made was over-hyped shoddy tat. Remember the Black Watch? One of the first digital watches, except the batteries lasted about 10 days and it couldn't tell the time properly.
And they gave him a knighthood.
Anonymous Coward
Would love one myself but... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

Won't work.
Imagine the airspace above home county town centres on a Friday night, full of 'ladz' (tm), buzzing around in the sky in their souped up Citroen Spitfire GTIs.
Or commuting traffic full of BMW Fokkers. (Not much change there)
Or school run mums landing on top of each other at the school launch pad with their Honda VTOLs
On the plus side, we could all grow handlebar moustaches and start saying stuff like 'Chocks away', 'Tally Ho' and 'Back to Blightly' again...
Mark_T
Nurse, nurse .....! #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT
Sir Clive's escaped again. Bring the zip-up tartan booties with the straps on the back !
Gordon Pryra
"he steered clear of "mechanical and technical things" #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT
Which is why he has "invented" something that a million other people have also "invented"
Any why his stuff is so shite.
he should have stuck to the specky
Steven Raith
Flying C5 - potential problem #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

Birdstrikes could be an issue without a full on canopy methinks - best be careful out there.
Steven R
breakfast
Thank goodness for that... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

Aside from the fact they are awesome flying cars are a terrible idea- look how much trouble we have on the roads and that's only working in two dimensions. Until the majority of people cease to be halfwits, flying cars will never be viable.
Captain Jamie
Love the photo! #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT
Is Sir Clive really saying that we're facing a future where chavs in airborne Vauxhall Novas go zooming around?
Time to ask my American friends to teach me how to handle shotguns, rocket launchers, et cetera. If some quarterwit is going to buzz me then I'm entitled to defend myself. With large calibre ordonance.
The photo is awesome and nearly had me choking on my tea. Thanks for cheering up a dull morning!
Torben Mogensen
Batteries #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT
One problem with electric flying cars is that batteries are heavy. So there would be need for a radical improvement in battery technology to make such a concept viable. Alternatively, more efficient fuel cells would have to be developed.
But electric motors do have one major advantage: They are fairly light themselves when compared to combustion engines. This will not fully compensate for added "fuel" weight, though.
Kenny Millar
The C5 - what's in a name? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

CLive Sinclair (before he became, Sir Clive) was really into the Zilog Z80 processor family - all his little, er, 'computers', were based on it.
In Z80 Assembly language, C5 was PUSH BC, which could be construed as 'Push ByCycle' if you take a mental squint at it. However, I prefer to think that it was simply his initials, in that 1980's sort of computer font C5 would have looked almost exactly like CS.
Mine is the one with the big furry hood.
Anonymous Coward
<no title> #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT
So what does he use to blur the mind?
Whatever it is, it's pretty effective.
Anonymous Coward
If its anything like the C5 ? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:55 GMT

It will fly at 30mph and get sucked into most 747 engines without the pilots even noticing anything.
Darren B
Permission to use of "bullseye"? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:57 GMT
Watch out the RAF will be slapping a lawsuit on your ass.
John Woodhouse
Its clear he doesnt use the net.. #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:57 GMT

otherwise he would have been more likely to have know about the Skycar
http://www.moller.com/
Anonymous Coward
The Alan Sugar of his time #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:19 GMT

Interesting ideas, mostly crap products, but at the end of the day, what was the point of either of them?
Graham Marsden
El Reg may be sued by RAF for violating intellectual property rights! #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:19 GMT

'the air force holds roundel rights only for "non clothing items"'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/12/raf_vs_next_in_battle_of_the_bedspreads/
Better take that RAF roundel off the wing PDQ...
David Adams
RE: Flying C5 - potential problem #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:19 GMT

With the speed of the C5, Bird strikes won't be a problem, you'll have plenty of time to get out of their way.
Pigeons laughing at you might be embarrassing though.
Ralph B
Missing detail #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:20 GMT

The pic is missing the mains cable.
Chris W
Re: Sir Clive Sinclair yesterday pretty well put the kibosh #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:20 GMT
Nah... That happens when a prototype appears on Tomorrow's World.
gwildfire
2009 Cars in the Sky #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:20 GMT
Anyone read this one in the past? looks like someone is already ahead of the game
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/10/transition_flying_car_quite_realistic/
Gilbert Wham
Hang on... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:51 GMT
"The vehicle would take off from your home and fly to wherever you want to go."
That's called a 'helicopter'. I've seen those. You can buy them and everything.
Anonymous Coward
@ Captain Jamie #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:51 GMT

"If some quarterwit is going to buzz me then I'm entitled to defend myself. With large calibre ordonance"
Would that be ordinance?
quarterwit......
Anonymous Coward
Dear Clive.... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:51 GMT

You wowed us with the LED wristwatch, the ZX80, ZX81 and of course the Speccy....then "that" was released and you became just another eccentric, millionaire British inventor who appeared to have finally flipped his lid. Sorry Clive old son, but no-one's gonna listen anymore...unless you get James Dyson to build it for you of course!
David
Flying T-Bird #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:14 GMT

I watched a movie `The AbsentMinded Professor` once and he invented a flying car. He used a revolutionary substance which he invented called Flubber. I think this Flubber stuff is the way forward.
Why has no-one harnessed its power? He invented it in 1961. Robin Williams also more recently discovered it. Only Robins dances around and stuff.
Anonymous Coward
Whoah there Clive....... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:27 GMT

The wonders of electric cars, flying or not, forever seem to cover up the truth about them - they're no more eco friendly than the trusty combustion engine.
If we all go "Electric", where do we get the 'juice' from? From coal fired/oil fired/gas fired (or worse still) neuclear powerstations. Yeah, that makes real eco-sense....NOT!
Maybe we'll all have little windmills mounted on the bonnets? Hey, what about those dumb looking hats with the helicopter blades on them? Maybe Sir Clive could programme one to take us wherever we want???
... and no - I'm not a tree-hugger, just well and truly pissed off with all these "lets be green and have an electric car" types. And as for fuel cells - oh sure, pumps out H2O at the back end, but how much power did it take to actually charge the cell in the first place, never mind build the vehicle....
The only true eco friendly power source for cars is either to WALK, CYCLE or if you must have 4 wheels; go solar powered.
grump grump grump, moan moan moan.
Anonymous Coward
And the Paris Hilton angle is? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:27 GMT
And the Paris Hilton angle is?
Geoff Mackenzie
Sinclair C5 #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:39 GMT
The C5 was so close to being a success story it's unbelievable. Just a few minor adjustments: make it taller and narrower, using two wheels arranged one in front of the other. Add a reasonable source of motive power and you've got the Honda CG125, whose popularity worldwide speaks for itself I think.
If Clive calls the flying machine Spectrum, it'll succeed for no good reason. Otherwise it'll sink like a stone. That's my prediction, as a futurologist.
Anonymous Coward
Re: @ Captain Jamie By Anonymous Coward #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:47 GMT

ordinance
1. an authoritative rule or law; a decree or command.
2. a public injunction or regulation: a city ordinance against excessive horn blowing. (ooh err)
3. something believed to have been ordained, as by a deity or destiny.
4. Ecclesiastical.
a. an established rite or ceremony.
b. a sacrament.
c. the communion.
ordnance
1. cannon or artillery.
2. military weapons with their equipment, ammunition, etc.
3. the branch of an army that procures, stores, and issues, weapons, munitions, and combat vehicles and maintains arsenals for their development and testing.
You're both 1/8 wits.
But then you never managed to build a (working) ZX81 from the kit, did you?
Joe
Why all the hate? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 13:19 GMT

I always had a soft spot for Uncle Clive, what's wrong with a little craziness sometimes? :D
I bet you all had C64s. Or BBCs! :P
@ Kenny Millar - I think you're drawing parallels where there are none!
Brian Miller
C-5, A-Bike, .... flying car? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 14:11 GMT
The only way that a flying car is realistically feasible if its something like the Ohio Airships Dynalifter, which is a dirigible that requires propulsion to get off the ground. Gasoline costs $10/gallon in the UK (and coming up on $5/gal here), so the only thing that is going to happen is everybody can tie a balloon to their bicycle, and pedal really fast.
(Actually, I have an A-Bike, and its the best conversation starter ever invented. Now if only I could pick up hot chicks with it...)
A
Actually I think he might be right. #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 15:03 GMT

We already have (unmanned) high altitude endurance aircraft that use solar power as their main power source; and with a number of the recent nanotech breakthroughs promising 10x more power from the same size solar panel I think it's not unreasonable to expect that we could see solar powered personal "aircraft" in the next 10-15 years.
As for the piloting, he's already said "fully automatic"; so other than the usual issues involving defective IT projects that's covered too.
I think he could be on the money this time!
As for those of you who can't see the difference between Sinclair and Sugar... Hint, one is an inventor and scientist, the other is a pile it high sell it cheap uber-salesman.
James Anderson
Inventor? #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 15:06 GMT

Did Clive ever really invent anything?
His one succesful product the zx80 and Spectrum computers were hardly original. The TRS80 was available 3 years before anything from Sinclair.
He was first with the "pocket" calculator, but calcualtors were steadily shriking in size -- and it had seriously limited functionality compared with the HP-35 launched a few months later. (Texas Instraments holds the first patent on hand held calculators).
The crappy "Black Watch" came out a full five years after the first digital watch.
Anonymous Coward
Anyone who insulates himself from current technology... #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 19:17 GMT

...is all the more likely to hit on the next quantum leap,so don't write off a man who eschews participation the Internet hive mind.
If Einstein had attended properly to the new, improved cuckoo clock designs crossing his desk at the Swiss Patent Office, he wouldn't have had time to dream of looking at his image in the mirror while travelling at the speed of light.
As for practical personal flying cars, an elite group of Hollywood scribblers have had them for years (I refer, of course, to the famous Ghost Writers in the Sky).
Evil Graham
@Joe - the hate #
Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 21:18 GMT

Well it might seem irrational but seriously, the American, Japanese and Korean electronics industries weren't headed by people who you needed to "have a soft spot for".
Instead, they made products that actually worked and that people wanted to buy. Then by and large they used the profits from these and invested them in the next generation - and so on.
Which is why they have electronics industries and we, broadly speaking, don't.
Anonymous Coward
The Sinclair Black Watch #
Posted Wednesday 2nd July 2008 11:14 GMT

For those who are too young to remember this marvel of electronic engineering, here is a dispassionate account of this wonder-product:
http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/other/blackwatch.htm
Paris - because she ought to watch it...
Captain Jamie
@ the two ACs #
Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 13:28 GMT
Whilst I'm not qualified to handle an ATR or other kind of BFG I am qualified to teach archery and am rather good with a bow and arrow. Until New Labour outlaw that as well.
1/8 wit? If I can survive bombings, critical illnesses and riots to name but three then I'd rather have my 1/8 than your perceived full compliment any day.
pctechxp
Womder whata flying C5 would sound like #
Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 13:40 GMT
Maybe like the loading screen on a spectrum.
screech buzz bump