Go ahead

Get off the phone an go do something useful!

Bet they can on paper but not on your bill.

T-Mobile states that they can beat any other operator for tariff prices but what they fail to mention is that if your call lasts less than a minute then you get charged for the whole minute at your allocated price. i.e. 20ppm.

They also fail to mention that anywhere in the literature that the shops shove down your throat as soon as you walk through the door.

They hid this little discrepancy rather well in the website. PITY THE RIP-OFF MERCHANTS DON'T TELL YOU THIS.

RUN AWAY WHILE YOU CAN

More than minutes...

I'm quite a fan of the "flext" idea for a price plan - worked well for me, and saved me having to pay attention to quite what I'm using. I certainly send too many texts, too many MMS and use too much data to pick a tariff on inclusive minutes. I'd have made the odd video call if they were in the bundle too...

BUT - I hate with a passion any price match deals - they're a message to competitors that says "if you undercut us, we'll match you, so don't bother, just match us and we won't need to budge, and we can both shaft joe consumer on fatter margins". The OFT should outlaw them in favour of price beater deals.

mind you, with the price of 08x numbers having shot up, data being available on an unpredictable basis (and hence no mms or browsing or video calls) maybe T-mobile are going back to being a voice only operator?

If they do loads of minutes, they'll hoover up lots of low spending technophobes who wonder why a phone needs to do anything other than make a call.

@ pctechxp

You haven't met my daughter!!

I think T mobile are wonderful.

I have just renewed my contract (£9.99 pm, 20 mins free (I don't use that much)) and as I did not have a new phone they have given me a discount of £10 pm. So they are going to pay me 1p per month to use their network. Funny old world ain't it?

Re: Signal coverage

Not so around here... they're the best for coverage in these parts, followed by vodafone and O2 (roughly equal), and Orange just isn't worth trying - you'll never have signal unless you're 100ft in the air!

Which of course means 3 doesn't have coverage now that they've switched to orange as a fall back carrier.

Of course, just because Orange are crap around here doesn't mean that they're crap everywhere - I happen to know that they provide the best coverage in west cornwall.

But then of course, Orange also have an extremely congested network, so even if you manage to get signal, there's no way you'll be able to actually USE your phone!

I'm coming to the end of my T-mob contract, but because you can get a better deal as a new customer than a renewal, but can't transfer your number from one t-mob contract to another, I'm signing up with virgin, who are a mvno on the t-mob network!

You bunch of whining morons.

Reg: It's actually available on a 12 month contract also. Plus the guarantee covers physical networks, 3, O2, Orange and Vodafone, but not the virtual networks.

Jon Press: You're pissed because you don't get something for free that was never offered to you and you? And also because you didn't bother to look into T&C's prior to committing? Sounds like you're one of the many idiots out there who have nobody to blame but them selves.

Nik Wyatt: Stop crying dude, again, you agreed to your contract. Show me another network that shows all of the above in their advertising? It isn't good to be bitter, it'll do you no good.

Robin Weston: You couldn't be further from the truth. Do you really think that the 4th largest network is going to launch the most aggressive pricing structure on the market and spend £10,000,000 on advertising to remain in 4th place? T-Mobile want the other networks to better the deal - and they will go on to beat it. They have invested heavily in making sure they can keep their promises... How long did Orange's "we'll match any deal" last? They want your custom and they want you to have the best deal - and they won't turn around and tell you that you can't have it once your contract has ended.

Anonymous Coward 1: [Excised by Reg moderator].

Tom Kelsall: Yeah, makes sense. Invest in infrastructure where there are no people, apart from you of course!!11!11eleven

Anonymous Coward 2: T-Mobile will match most new deals for 95% of customers, the remaining 5% being mostly ultra low users. Give upgrades a call.