The trouble was, they stopped people coming back from sunny resorts with deep tans, as well as the intended detainees.

that camera wielding peadophile-terrorists will hijack the LHC & bombard the Palace of Westminster with strangelets. The government must act now to stamp out this menace!

Or we could just spend our time dealing with disease, hunger & ignorance.

"real anxiety...light aircraft as vehicle bombs against places of public aggregation.."

As opposed to say....ohhhh I dunno....buying a car and packing it with explosive and driving it into a crowd/building. Or buying a fuel tanker....or hijacking a dangerous good vehicle..... or derailing a train...or...or...or....

Why to they insist on concentrating on the "bloody difficult and little real effect" when there are so many easier bigger bangs for bucks out there.

This is just about a stupid as the reaction of Basingstoke Council to an application to allow model planes on local parks. Rejected 'cos the 'terrorists might pack a model plane with explosive and fly it into a high value target' i.e. the Council offices. The fact that there is a car park at the centre of the council buildings did not seem to register.

Aliens 'cos they are the only ones likely to see the bigger picture.

Hello, is that the Westminster Flying School? I'd like to book some lessons in a suitable light aircraft for myself and a couple of fellow Jihadists.

My name? Sure, it's O.B. Laden...

Bollocks, frankly. In order to hijack a private jet you have to get on it in the first place. This is not cheap (tens of thousands in charter fees, even for a baby one) nor is it easy to do clandestinely, given the closed community of professionals that work in general aviation.

As for the light aircraft idea, that really is ludicrous. A Cessna 172 (common, single engine, four seat) isn't even capable of flying four people with the tanks full, let alone managing a decent haul of explosives. It'd be far easier and vastly more effective to rent a Transit van from SixT than try and turn a spam can into a flying bomb.

Idiot. He's only saying this because he's a Liberal peer and thus massively pissed off that people are either rich enough to use private jets or interesting enough to enjoy flying themselves in light aircraft.

Really? I'm amazed. It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that I have a hard time believing that anyone could be so uselessly paranoid.

More likely they didn't want to allow it because of safety considerations, but that would mean doing some reading, research and consultation wrt existing laws and legislation.

If you say 'prevention of terrorism' then you don't need to think or have to justify yourself, or so it seems nowadays.

is like tracking everyone's money and all boats "in case they might be used by terrorists/people-traffickers/drug smugglers", it's really about tax. see the BIA flannel about e-borders about halfway down.

terrorism (and terrorists) are cheap, don'tcha know.

... after all, look at the devastating damage that could be caused...!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1744923.stm

It appears that Lord Carlile is anything but an independent reviewer - when he isn't actively supporting everything that has been introduced he's advocating introducing new stuff on the flimsiest of pretexts.

A couple of things I remember from a quick review:

- Illegal use of anti terror powers by police forces; some of the examples were quite large scale but it doesn't appear anyone will face disciplinary action, though it was suggested some victims be contacted to allow them to sue the police.

- the significant number of arrests made under 'terror' related offences; as I remember it 50%+ led to no action - given 'intelligence led' policing this seems a rather high rate of misdirected action. The only comment regarding this seemed to be that the figures were OK, and matched the 'perceived' threat. How well they matched the *actual* threat isn't mentioned...

It's all bullshit. One only hopes that they're just being malicious with all this legislation *insert conspiracy theory here* 'cos if they actually believe all this stuff then we're really fucked.

"Oh, wait... this is government." ..... By Mike Moyle Posted Tuesday 24th June 2008 16:35 GMT

Ah yes,.....government ..... that Most Recent of Puppets introduced by Deity and Monarchs and Unfit for Common Purpose in Present Condition/Perception.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1744923.stm

It's a good job it did not start a fire or the whole building could have been reduced to rubble.