Good on the French Courts!

I have no love for the great on-line tat-bazaar, especially for their anti-competitive practices.

Viva La Difference!

do people really expect that any name brand bag bought on Ebay is genuine??

Honestly even Paris would realise that a $100 "new, genuine" LV bag might not actually be so.. um genuine..

The only people who buy them are people who can't afford a real one.. So the whole thing is a load of crap because no ones loosing money.. except traders on ebay who indirectly have to pay higher fees because of stupid laws and retarded french judges.

Perhaps they should just not use ebay.fr? the international one is great.. but then i live in New Zealand so only have that option anyway :)

"So the whole thing is a load of crap because no ones loosing money.."

Not so sure really!

If a brand is overly copied and dumped across the world, it starts loosing its appeal and therefore revenue...

... and while it's obvious they're fakes because of the price, it certainly isn't from the quality. The Louis Vuitton bag I saw was bought for 70 quid, and it is worth every penny. The build quality is fantastic. It's better that the trousers I bought two weeks ago in the shops for a similar price which wore a hole in the pocket within a week. If pirates can build better quality items than manufacturers, what does that say?

Mine's the one with holes in its pockets. Probably shouldn't have said that....

Do you think they can get it back from the all encompassing and so easy to use paypal protection scheme? No?

Fleabay getting what it deserves, frankly.

Dead vulture, cos that what they are...

For a start how do they ascertain that it's a fake rather than a low-priced real one (I'm sure we've all thrown out things that later turned out to be more valuable than they thought)? I mean with all the divorces going on around the world surely it's not impossible that a guy would just want to get rid of the handbags his ex-wife was so proud of and get some cash back too.

Once they've determined it's a fake surely they'd just need to send an email to eBay's Vero people from a proper corporate address to get it removed? Do they contact the seller to let them know it's been pulled and give them a chance to say they it was their ex-wifes' hand-bag?

Pretty much if they emailed eBay about this through the correct channels I support eBay being fined, if not then it's just too bad. chance dure, frenchies- you should have gone through the proper channels and got it sorted out that way.

Also would it have been legal if they'd put "**FAKE**" or "**REPLICA**" in the listing title?

Should be amusing if ebay were forced to change policies and actualy be proactive. A company shouldnt have to scan ebay for its goods.

Ebay in my experience is somewhat lax about removing counterfeit and banned goods even when notified by government safety bodies.

Knock off designer goods are one thing, and as mentioned if you expect to get the real thing for pennies you are sadly deluded.

What gets me is when they allow for sale stuff that is dangerous and has been subject to a MHRA ban (A body lotion that contained prescription steroids) .

Took 'em a week of sales to get that off line

Is there anything on YouTube for which the copyright belongs to a Frenchman? Inquiring lawyers want to know...

More to the point, if companies that let end-users write their web-site are going to be held liable for what gets "published", whither Web 2.0, or even Wikipédia?

Because if you go and look at ebay.fr (as of 5-6-08 10:10 at least) there is no reference to any of this on the home page. So ebay obviously dont give a rats arse about it. Bet they dont pay the fine either!

Its good to see that someone is actually able to prosecute an organisation as large as ebay, and succeed. Maybe suggests that Napoleon's systems are less subject to the influence of might or money.

Yet again we could learn something from them!

The French authorities are literally hunting counterfeits, making it even illegal to own them. While that applies to French brands only. @ "Name": I agree with point2.

One might think France has made brand counterfeits a matter of national security, and the measure they take clearly overshoot the target.

At airports and similar places of mass congregation special officers are watching out for people wearing or using counterfeits. When You are caught wearing a counterfeit watch that would cost 20.000€ as a original, but cost You 50€ as a fake, You might have to pay up to the real price of the watch as a fine. And lose it. I kid You not!

But then:

whoever cares for a LV bag or similar overpriced, ugly crap doesn't deserve other. Look at the quality: the fake VT bags are from leather, the real one from plastic. Does anyone see irony here? Take any cheap shit, print some stomach turning ugly pattern on it, rivet a LV logo on it, and sell for 20 times the price it it worth.

Some people need an opportunity to show of their money by using openly things everyone knows are ridiculously expensive. Let the wannabe artists called 'designer' help those haute couture posers out here. They fit perfectly together. What drives me out are people who try to pretend to be wealthy, trendy, whatever, by using fake brand stuff. Can't they see how pathetic that is? They don't deserve other than pay for their stupidity. It is not that they wouldn't know it's a fake, is it?

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Bill, because he showed how a fakes can become the original...

The country where business is a four letter word, especially foreign businesses, and of those especially "anglo-saxon" companies. And they wonder why the economy sucks?

Boo-hoo why doesn't anyone want to come here and invest? Because of protectionism like this (see if they go nuts over foreign goods being counterfeited), treating business owners like cash cows and an outdated economic model that worked great for 50 years following WWII, but can't survive in a global (another dirty word) economy.

I don't care one way or another about ebay, but this stinks of anti-foreign parctice and\or protectionism.

......because ebay joins the long and distinguished club of those screwed by Paris.

For me the real crime is selling a bag for $10k, undercutting criminals is a non starter in my view.

I saw a discussion about what Ebay could do to help buyers and sellers the other week regarding a recent policy change that made a number of people upset, and my response there makes sense here too.

Ebay doesn't care about buyers. Ebay doesn't care about sellers. Ebay cares about one thing: Ebay.

If they have to pay out a couple million in Paris, they won't care, if it doesn't hurt the overall bottom line. They enforce the rules only if Ebay users tattle on other users, or if forced to comply with the law. If shareholder value doesn't drop enough to cause complaints to the board, or affect the CEO's bonus for the year, Ebay simply doesn't care. The experience is secondary; as with many cutthroat businesses, the bottom line (profit) always comes first.

-Paris, `cos even she knows better than to buy Gucci on Ebay

"If China can make a luxury item copy for 10$ that looks so well as the original luxury item sold 1'000$, then the original is not worth much than 10$..."

Technically, you're not only paying for quality, but also for the design, which the counterfeiters are not allowed to copy. The fact that music can be found for free on the web does not mean it is worthless.

Also, you can feel good about the fact that the bag was made by correctly-paid people in Europe rather than by children in sweatshop.

But I agree that people buying such bags are buying a status symbol more than anything else. And in the end, it is just a game to keep up with the Joneses...

Paris, because she knows all about buying expensive stuff to hide your low self-worth...