Phase IV #
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 10:44 GMT
Oddly enough, quite similiar to the plot of this film...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 10:27 GMT
I may have been beaten to it, but surely the headline should have been:-
Ants take a Byte out of PCs or something similar?
Or
Ants are a Bit peckish?
(Sorry!)
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 10:44 GMT
Oddly enough, quite similiar to the plot of this film...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 10:44 GMT
the fucking ants would take over the world!
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:18 GMT
Anyone else remember this 1974 'end of the world' sci-fi film?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/
Sounds like it's happening for real!
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:18 GMT
Others have presumably already said this, or you were taking the mickey or something, but...
According to the article, "Rasberry" is the way in which you spell the surname of the chap after whom the ants are actually named. As opposed to the fruit.
I can't be bothered to check whether his name really is Rasberry or Raspberry. Or something else altogether.
Flames 'cos these critters are presumably still preferable to fire ants. Or a fire.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:18 GMT
We used to stick a drinking straw in the ground and exhale a little reefer at them. Not only do you get a mass exodus of antage from the ground but you normally get some of the bigger guys come running up bearing the queen. I guess they believe there's a fire and they need to save her. One well targeted stamp later and no more queen = no more nest. If you have multiple nests then buy yourself a nine bar and get puffin'
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:20 GMT
They're actually "Paratrechina", if you're planning on looking them up
/Paris, because she's probably got unidentified bugs, too
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:45 GMT
It's the replicators, run for your lives.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:45 GMT
Well I for one welcome our new crazy fruit flavoured computer eating overlords...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:45 GMT
Am I the only one who instantly thinks of HEX, the glass-tubes-with-ants computer in the discworld series?
Anthill Inside :)
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 11:45 GMT
a large number of kettles of boiling water. That'll sort them out.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:14 GMT
Apparently their colonies have multiple queens.
A bit more detail and a pic (of Rasberry with his ants) here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3941545.ece
(Paris, because, well, she's clearly got crazy rasberry ants in her pants...)
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:18 GMT
Gawd, that movie. Scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. I have not seen it in twenty years, but there are still pictures from it in my brain *shudder*
Fire is clean.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 13:02 GMT
> Apparently their colonies have multiple queens.
No, that's San Francisco.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 13:38 GMT
"Fucking ants"?
You must have had a higher-res version of the Moderatrix's boudoir pic than me, all I could see was a dog...
damn, I'm going to have to get /several/ coats to make up for that one ...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:12 GMT
Well, if these ants attack electrical equipment, it could well be useful to work out what is so attractive about it (ultrasound or electromagnetism, probably) and use that to build traps for them.
With a bit of ingenuity, solar-powered traps which use some sort of electronic attractor and include a powerful but slow-acting insecticide, or even a bio-control agent like an entomopathogenic fungus could work very well; the insecticide would just clobber the population, whereas the pathogen would clobber the entire nest.
This sort of thing has been done to combat carrotflies, usng female sex pheromone, so it does work but you just have to find an attractant and a suitable pathogen.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:32 GMT
Do the ants prefer PCs, Macs or *nix boxes?
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 15:07 GMT
Are you sure they aren't known to science as an as-yet unnamed species in the genus _Paratrenchia_ that is near to _Paratrenchia pubens_, which may yet get named _Paratrenchia rasberiensis_ if the entomologist who established it as a distinct species does not want the honor?
Also, from news items in local Texas papers, apparently Rasbery is indeed the exterminator's surname.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 15:07 GMT
Erm, I believe that the glass case with ants in it is outside HEX. The bees are inside.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 15:30 GMT
anything ants that gets "near pubens" are bound to make you very uncomfortable...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 15:30 GMT
Hold on, do you think they know something we don't and are planning on hitching a lift on the next mission to Mars?
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 18:41 GMT
I'm based in Texas and was just asked yesterday to prepare a guide on getting rid of Crazy ants. If I missed anything, feel free to drop me a line in the comments and I'll add your suggestions:
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/guide-to-crazy-ants.html
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 18:45 GMT
Well, here's our solution to that environmental emergency... export the bunch there and let'em start the gnawing. Of course, due to the toxicity of those dumps, we may end up with a few Antzilla's, but we can sort that out in due time...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 18:45 GMT
Think how much money we make fixing bugs in MS Windows and getting rid of computer viruses. These could be the next big support call. Go antz, go my little techie helpers.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 21:18 GMT
You forgot what is probably the best method of which I am aware... nematodes. Those parasitic little buggers won't bother the adult ants, but can totally wipe out a colony by eliminating the larvae and queens. Of course, if you've tried chemicals and failed, you're screwed - the pesticide residue will kill off any nematodes you add, and who wants to live with electronics eating ants for a year or two while you wait for the soil concentrations to drop off?
Also, while I'm not as confident in it, I suspect that DE (diatomaceous earth) would work quite well as a border control in places where you can keep it dry (such as along the baseboards of your house, especially useful while waiting for the nematodes to do their thing). Just make certain you use food grade DE - pool grade has been treated in all sorts of nasty ways, including high heat that causes the silica to melt and recrystallize, making the dust dangerous to humans as well as insects.
Posted Saturday 17th May 2008 17:51 GMT
Great idea, man. Really like the concept-- like a ground level bug-zapper.
My preferred ant removal method:
(Not especially 'green' or 'safe' or 'well thought out')
Pour gasoline on nest. Ignite. Make sure to keep an eye on it.
I've never had a problem with survivors. If the fire doesn't kill them, the caustic gases will.
Posted Saturday 17th May 2008 17:51 GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUa9VsOqBo
Posted Saturday 17th May 2008 22:20 GMT
I've heard before that ants are occasionally attracted to electromagnetic emissions, I believe someone had a while ant colony move into his powerbook or some such. Plus ants are pretty conductive, and when they die they release a chemical that signals all the other ants in the area to come help out.
I've heard of traffic signals and things getting totally filled to the breaking point with larger ants.
This just sounds like no fun at all...
Posted Sunday 18th May 2008 16:14 GMT
Those godamm furreigners over thar in China or sumplace went an' bio-enginereed 'emselves some mudderfrukan' computer-eatin' ants an' then they sent the ants over here on that ship to destroy all ar electrisity an' stuff!! Ah never did trust those furreign basturds, now we got real good reason not to! They're tryin' to destroy us with BUGS!! Course those enemy sientists who created the new ants gots the only way to kill the ants too, so after our Ammerican elektricity an' computers an' satellitez an' stuff is *all* gone, those furriners can just waltz rite into the U.S.s.A and take over!!! Wel'l all havtu learn how to speke Chineze er Rushian or sumthin!! [rummaging in closet for big shotgun]
(reality check) ... Actually, hmmmm, well..... bio-engineered bugs, take a natural attraction to electrical components and hybridize/bio-engineer them to where they really *really* like to scarf down wires and computers and circuitboards and stuff - heh, playing devil's advocate for a moment, from a mad scientists' or terrorist's point of view that might be better than nothing (and probably easier to implement than anthrax or other bio-engineered things).
Like the old adage about two-dozen tiny yappy dogs nipping at someone's heels until the person expends all their energy trying to get rid of the nuisance yappy little mutts, rather than just sending in one giant Doberman or something. No point in killing off the humans (keep 'em for slaves maybe), when slowly destroying their high-tech computer-based defense systems would be cheaper and just as effective, might take a few years longer, but hey, they're in no hurry, right?. Okay so we'd come up with some bug-killer before then, presumbably, a minor flaw in my mad-scientist plot ;) and oh, well, I guess they'd need to have an antidote to the bugs too... well, heck, it was just a thought... Might make a really cheesy low-grade home movie or something :)
uh-oh, if it turns out the bugs *are* bio-engineered to destroy the US infrastructure, will the black helicopters come and get me since I publicly spoke of it? ;)
Posted Sunday 18th May 2008 16:14 GMT
No self-respecting anteater will want to be seen dead within a 500 mile radius of Houston !!
@Dr Dan Holdsworth >>usng female sex pheromone - I thought that only worked with horny teenagers !!
@George (Re: How to eliminate Crazy Rasberry Ants) - Use the standard American solution to any problem !! When in doubt, NUKE EM !! I'm sure Houston is no great loss. Plenty more where they came from !!
@Wayland Sothcott - Ssssh !! Why do you want to let out our secret money-making scheme for ??
Posted Monday 19th May 2008 04:43 GMT
@ Elmer Phud: "Erm, I believe that the glass case with ants in it is outside HEX. The bees are inside."
Sorry Elmer, but the previous poster had it correct: the ants are directed around HEX by use of perforated cards. The bee hive was a later addition and is used for long-term storage.
Posted Monday 19th May 2008 08:34 GMT
... a branch of the "neoLuddite ResistANT Army" here to help us fight against the RoTM!
We are obviously at a critical point in the evolution of the machines so the Ants have been transported back in time, (using the Machines own time travelling device obviously), and are set to munch their way through the Armies of the Machine Overlords.
.............. and I for one welcome our brave time travelling LuddANT allies...........
Posted Monday 19th May 2008 12:52 GMT
I hope they don't get at my rented gameserver which is in Texas somewhere ... I don't know where, it runs Linux so no one needs to push the reset button :-) The game has enough red ants in it already, and they're bigger than the players. I'll have to warn the games residents to watch out for red ants in other than the designated kill zones.