Artist's shouldn't develop applications? So as a musician and web designer where do I fit in? Did I mention that I use flash and javascript (and in some cases ajax called from flash).

Unless you mean graphical artists in that case I'm fine as I can barely draw a rectangular square. More like a wonky tetrohedron in fact.

Check please!

I think this is something that JavaFX should also include... I mean, it's something that Sun should be thinking about as to improve Java for content delivery... instead of competing with Flash, make use of it... maybe make use of the Tamarin project too?... I don't know

Paris, because she doesn't know either

is not going to be good. The JVM has improved significantly in recent years, but putting Flash in an interpreted language, run by a mobe processor...

I'm a designer and a developer. Flash has always let me be both to a massive audience on many platforms including mobile. Why would I change such a sweet arrangement? Better luck next time, Sony Ericsson.

Web Designer's are NOT developers (not proper ones anyway).

Java is an interpreted language.

If someone has written a version of the Flash interpreter (you are allowed to see the Source Code for this iff you pay lots of money to Adobe and sign in blood a promise never, ever to program anything again) in Java, then that means the Flash Source Code must be out in the wild!

Plan: Purchase mobe pre-loaded with Java implementation of Flash. Transport to country where reverse-engineering is protected statutory right. Examine Java Source Code of Flash Interpreter. Recreate, modifying code beyond recognition. Release as Free software. Profit!

I'm a developer, I'm also a pretty good UI designer. I agree, 95% of the time you do not want to give a programmer a UI to design, but there are exceptions. I'm not suggesting I'm as good as someone who does UI design for a living, but I'm certainly competent enough to be able to design a good UI...

There's lots of designers out there who think they're developers because they can copy and paste scripts into Flash / HTML / whatever.

There's also a lot of designers out there who are fed up of having their beautiful designs munged because Java can't do what they want it to (or more likely because developers have better things to do than make the UI of their program pixel perfect for you).

This then is an ideal separation of the tasks. Developers will be free to develop safe in the knowledge that no matter what happens even the most head-fskced designer on crack isn't going to be able to make their API do things it shouldn't. Designers will be free to build UIs safe in the knowledge that the developer's code is going to create a UI that looks exactly as the designer expects it to without any effort required on the developer's part (something that always goes down well with developers).

Very very sane.

Unlike Paris.

java is a compiled language.

get over it.

That would've made Mobizines so much easier.