Dubai impounds cable slicing ships
dervheid
Those would have been W... #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 10:32 GMT

anchors, then.
Jamie
Conspiracy blah!!!! #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 10:52 GMT

It was those damn foul lizard beast pretending to be the UK Royal family. I saw them with my own two eyes.
Jaowon
Cables out in the open? #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 11:26 GMT
Ok, my next leased line, I'll insist that BT run it down the road all the way from the exchange to the office, then I'll send a bill to the owner of any car who damages it by driving over it, or impound the car.
Were the bottom of the sea cables marked above sealevel with "Do not lower your anchors here" signs?
Anonymous Coward
@ Jamie #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 11:26 GMT

"It was those damn foul lizard beast pretending to be the UK Royal family. I saw them with my own two eyes."
just imagine if it turns out to be true, the royals ARE lizards and they were responsible for the cut cables..... you will be in some serious trouble.... keep a eye out for a white fiat uno.........
Vikash Joshi
Ships & Cables #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 11:34 GMT

Wonder how long before "No Parking" signs and double yellow lines start popping up in ports?
Paris because she goes down quicker than an anchor.
Mark
@ Jaowon #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 11:43 GMT

Well the cables wouldn't be marked above sea level a long way from shore (they generally are marked close to shore to prevent this sort of thing), but they would certainly be marked on the nautical charts of the area. As any sailor knows you don't drop anchors near underwater obstructions since you can either get stuck on them, or you can break the item in question. The sea is a rather large place and with a little thought you can ensure you don't actually break anything.
Tim Bergel
@Jaowon #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 11:56 GMT

"Were the bottom of the sea cables marked above sea level with "Do not lower your anchors here" signs?"
According to the reports I have read, yes they were. Specifically there appear to be interdicted areas marked on the charts where you must not anchor.
John Widger
@ Vikash Joshi #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 12:14 GMT

There is usually some kind of marker, i.e. a buoy or marker of some sort, to indicate a hazard as with road signs. These were either in place, in which case the ships were at fault, or they weren,t then the cable owners were at fault for failing to notify the proper authourity.
Kristian Nilssen
Cable laying company idiots #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 12:24 GMT
The cable should be buried. I'm surprised it lasted more than a month. Don't they have trawlers in that part of the world? The cable owner should be fined for leaving crap all over the ocean.
Peter
Strangly apt description .. #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 12:24 GMT
"Incompetent seamen" - yeah, that must be genetic.
The lab coat, thanks.
Anonymous Coward
@Kristian Nilssen #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 13:11 GMT
The cable owner would have got permission to lay and the cable will undoubtedly be clearly marked on navigation charts. Dragging anchor onto a cable is the marine equivalent of driving a lorry into a low bridge.
Rick
@ Kristian Nilssen #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 13:47 GMT

under sea cables are so deep that there aren't any human vehicals to submerge that deep so burying them is next to impossible...
@ Vikash Joshi Damn you...you beat me to that punchline...
>/ Thumbs down because its just that deep...
theotherone
it's just a case... #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 13:47 GMT
of getting careless with your seamen....
Captain Jamie
I guess that #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 14:20 GMT

the responsible Seaman may well get discharged...
(with thanks to Bruce Dickinson)
Anonymous Coward
re:Cable laying company idiots #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 15:34 GMT

And how do you bury cables under the ocean? Getting them on the bottom, and keeping them is expensive enough the way it is!
Paris because she doesn't hide anything underground either!
Spider
@Rick #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 16:46 GMT
Not strictly true, you can now trench cables easily to the edge of the continental shelf, and if they had anchor cable that went deeper than that they wouldn't have much room for cargo!
Jaowon
@Tim Bergel #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 17:59 GMT
Ah ok,
I did have a quick google if that was the case, but couldn't find anything to confirm either way.
So my leased line should be ok provided I run it between double yellow lines :)
Charles Hammond
Deapth of Sea In Gulf #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 17:59 GMT

I think the maximum deapth of the Gulf in this area is only about 90 meters at its deepest. Where as the maximum deapth of the mediteranian is about 5,000 meters. This is quite a large variation in Depth. Still 90 meters is quite deep, but that is only at the deepest point. There are lots of areas that are not that deep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_gulf
Aliens need to guide us.
Lars
Well marked places for anchoring #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 17:59 GMT

On the charts, that is, I think. And the cables are not there.
StopthePropaganda
Iraqi and Korean flagged ships, eh? #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 18:57 GMT
North or south on the Korean craft? I wonder who sits on their boards of directors...
Paul
Anchors... #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 18:57 GMT
You do realise that the point of anchors is to sink to the bottom and catch onto things to stop the ship moving?
So why are people suprised when they sink to the bottom and catch onto things?
Marvin the Martian
@spider: Continental shelf? In the gulf? #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 18:57 GMT

Smart cookie!
... the others can maybe work out why P.H.
Remy Redert
@Paul #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 19:35 GMT

Nononono, an anchor is not supposed to catch on anything other then soft sand and clay. If your anchor hits the bottom while you're doing any speed and gets caught on a nice hard rock, you're in for a whole boatload of structural damages.
Normally, the anchor digs into the ground a bit and causes a ton of drag, although stopping through the use of your anchor (aka, dragging it) is a bad thing (tm), anchors are for keeping your ship in place, not for stopping it.
Patrick O'Reilly
Surprised at it all. #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 20:57 GMT

I'm really surprised at there being any damage.
Aren't those cables wrapped in a secure shell?!
Trent
What does an anchor do? #
Posted Monday 14th April 2008 23:31 GMT

In case anyone cares to know about these things:
The anchors sole job is to assist in dragging out the anchor chain. It is only the anchor chain where it meets the seafloor that provides any effective holding effect comparative to the size of the vessel. For reference typically a ratio of around 1:3 is sought to ensure enough anchor chain is in contact with the seafloor. The ratio is different based on current, winds and size of the cable cutter/vessel.
So that's what the manual says.... In real life lazy people do lazy things when they think no one will notice so things like cables get a bit of touchy feely action from 5 ton anchors.
Paris because She's a vessel for sea men.
Moss Icely Spaceport
Anchors aweigh! #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 05:06 GMT

I'll bet Paris would know what to do with those seamen!
Waldo
Its all part of the master plan #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 05:58 GMT

Its all part of their master plan, you see when the lines go down, everyone has to call for tech support for an explanation.... and since most of these tech support calls go to India it helps them. So, the tech support in this case has an answer and it makes them look good which gives them a higher rating. With all the tech support jobs going to India there you go. Funny, the ship has the name India in it's title........ or is it?
Anonymous Coward
Undersea Cables and Indian IT #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 08:00 GMT
I'm sure not trenching was cheaper.
Wayland Sothcott
Still suspicious #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 08:00 GMT

I am glad they tracked down the culprits but I still suspect it was deliberate. Hopefully they will be able to defend the Internet better in future.
Of course they lay the cables on the floor and nor bury them. It would be damaging for sea life to go plowing up the sea floor and pointless.
Other cables damaged are those in rural areas of the UK. It's blamed on pikies intent on recycling the copper but no one has seen them doing it. It costs BT thousands to fix them and rural businesses who's broadband is poor anyway get cut off from phone and Internet for weeks or months.You would think it was a plot by the local WISP companies but it was not me.
Anonymous Coward
@Wayland Sothcott #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 08:44 GMT

A great deal of cable is buried, either by ploughing, as it's laid, or post-lay burial, where a remotely operated vehicle is used to bury it. The decision to bury or not depends on the soil structure (is it soft enough to plough?) and the risk of it being hit by anchor drag or fishing activity. Otherwise the cable can be armoured with protective metal sheath, again, it depends on the perceived risk.
PH - post lay burial,protective sheath - nuff said
Peter Bradshaw
Poor PH #
Posted Tuesday 15th April 2008 20:40 GMT

http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/paris_hilton_32.png
Paris Hilton
Congratulations, all the comments with pictures of PH and nasty comments have finally made me sympathetic towards her.
Only for 30 seconds or so, but still...