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Ofcom reins in TV psychics and adult chat

Greg

I like this bit 

"aims to ensure that promotion of the phone service never becomes the sole purpose of the programme."

Woohoo, no more X-Factor then,

Anonymous Coward

So that would seem to put paid to 

channels like Babecast, where Horny Harry from London wants No 5 to wave her bottom to the screen while brushing her hair in a sexy way.

Darren Winter

Hold on a minute! 

"Until that day Ofcom will be on hand to make sure the ad breaks are long enough to get the kettle on, and don't intrude into our programming."

I'm confused here, Reg - wasn't it only a couple of weeks ago (March 20th, fact fans - 'Ofcom says yes on more TV ads') that you reported that:

- two breaks instead of one would be permitted in a 30-minute show

- adverts shown immediately after the opening credits

- films to have ad breaks every 30 mins, instead of every 45 at present

- an overall increase in the number of adverts

So how exactly do these proposals 'not intrude into our programming'?

I hate Sky. Their programming is drivel: they're hideously expensive considering everything is funded by (it seems) Ocean Finance and Jamster adverts; they have a curious reluctance to develop any programmes of their own that aren't quiz shows or the worst Terry Pratchett books.

But thank the Lord that they introduced Sky Plus!

Pete

isn't it *all* advertising? 

When it comes down to basics, anytime you exhort people to spend money, you're subjecting them to advertising. This even holds true for charities - it's quite possible to advertise a charity, and by association the work it does.

While that may be a rather extreme view ("we only make a charge to cover our costs" as a BBC executive might bleat) it seems to me that you can't draw a line anywhere: one programme saying "spend £X and you'll get a benefit" is advertising, whereas another saying "spend £Y and you'll get a different benefit" isn't.

So let's have the time spent promoting competitions, phones-in's, votes and all the other ways of moving money from the viewers to the TV programmers classed as advertising time and contributing towards the time allowed for commercials. If your channel's franchise doesn't permit advertising, well too bad. Score one for the viewers.

Anonymous Coward

Leave Horny Harry alone 

Coat

He is keeping Babecast running single handily.

What do you mean my jacket is missing?

Doug

Psychic hotlines pulled? 

Coat

I knew that was going to happen.

david wilson

Intrusion? 

>>"So how exactly do these proposals 'not intrude into our programming'?"

Who needs Sky Plus? Adverts don't intrude into my viewing either.

Watching hardly anything live any more, and using the forward skip button on my Humax(*) to bounce across commercial breaks, I rarely see a TV advert these days.

((*) Readers are reminded that other brands of Personal Video Recorder are available.)

Anonymous Coward

TV psychics reined in? 

Coat

Does this mean we won't see Stephen Hawking anymore?

Mine's the one made of string (theory)

P. Lee

intruding into programming 

Linux

If you want to know intrusive, take a look at what happens in Oz.

Here we get:

- adverts running at the bottom of the screen (for other programmes on the channel)

- adverts every 6-8 minutes by the last third of the show.

- programmes run between 10 and 25 minutes outside their scheduled slots without any "live" events preceding them.

- the 9pm film on Saturday night will easily take you until midnight to finish.

I've given up watching live - I watch everything the next night. I've found the Mythical TV system which allows me to skip the rubbish.

Oops, product placement ;)

Tux, the power behind the Myth. Oh bother, more product placement...

Anonymous Coward

@ David Wilson 

"Readers are reminded that other brands of Personal Video Recorder are available"

Such as Sky Plus for example? :-)

david wilson

@AC 

>> Such as Sky Plus for example? :-)

Isn't Sky Plus rather tied to being a patron of Murdoch's wares?

For the humble terrestrial viewer, options are different (but don't involve ongoing contracts).

Anonymous Coward

Yes, leave Horny Harry alone. 

Heart

Please do, its my only enjoyment.

And i like no 5's bottom. and hair.

Pete

Talking of Ocean finance and its ilk 

Happy

Will the credit crunch, indirectly scupper Sky?

Mike Richards

@Anonymous Coward 

Get thee to eBay and find yourself a TiVo - the one true PVR.