The CoS will do it's usual claim it's copyrighted material out of one side of it's face (in court) and while out of the other it will maintain that it is not the actual details (in public).

Does anyone know how you can have a cognition? - how do you know you have one or have had one?

Paris because i dont have a clue!

Blimey, amanFromMars makes more sense than that lot.

Years ago I learned to use Lorum Ipsum instead of making things up as it always backfires in the end.

Are they sure those documents are kosher? Looks like a wind-up to me:-)

Aren't these documents the same as the so-called "Fishman papers" that have been floating around the 'net for years, despite the best efforts of the scientologists and their lawyers to suppress them? IIRC, the Fishman papers went all the way to OT13, ie several mortgages above OT8.

Paris, because she'd make such a wonderful recruit for the scientologists.

The fool, or the fool who follows the fool?

Idiots, all of them.

Yes it's important to shine light on this group of dangerous loonies but we have other dangerous loonies to cope with right now, possibly you could handle CoS on your side of the pond. We will be with you when we have figured out this whole forced-sex-teen-bigamy thing, kthxbai.

--USA

Regarding Lorem Ipsum ....... and you might like to consider that Cicero plagiarised is the Bedrock Foundation of Christianity and its Biblical Compendium of Edutainment Tales, the NTFS of its Time ..... as novel and as innovative as one may think to be Secure Communication in any of its Forms and Encryptions when discussing the Meaning of Life and Everything, Just for the Hell and the Love of Life ITself, that novelty and innovation are a pure and real delusion, for the Steganographic Masterpiece of Original Thought by which Man has evolved and is evolving, and which lights the Way to States of Higher Enlightenment and Beautifully Imperfect Immaculate Grace in the Sins and Vices it is a Pleasure to Right when Wronged, is already long ago shared for the Future in "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" (The Extremes of Good and Evil) by Cicero, written in 45 BC.

A Real dDeep Thinker Tinker was Cicero..... http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cicero ... with his double dDutch GBIrish in Latin PGP2 ....Pretty Good Privacy PerlyGatesPython. A Man Born and Borne of Woman in a Time and Place in Time and Space and Born and Borne Immortal through Words for Deeds ReMembered for Recycling Repetition in Future Buildings that Create Noble Societies out of Chaotic Confusion and its ArchAlly, Hubris...... for the Vanity and Madness that is the Insanity of Man failing 42BTrue......a Prize Fool to Himself and Everyone Else and a Mother and Natures Greatest Gift Squandered and Mindlessly Abused.

Fortunately though, 42BTrue is the Simplest of Simply Complex Tasks, even though the Fool would think IT SMART to avoid its Full Disclosure, Free-Loving Embrace and Create a Parallel Construction wedded to Falsehood...... which when IT reaches AI Critical Mass will Big Bang Explode and Implode on itself, Destroying the Edifice and XXXXPosing ITs Core to Ridicule and Just Retribution.

CATS: All your base are belong to us.

CATS: you are on your way to destruction

Captain: What you say !!

CATS: You have no chance to survive make your time.

CATS: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....

they do not believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, praised be his noodly appendages!

Welcome our thetan-detoxed, xenu-worshipping, lawsuit-happy, tax-deducting, operating thetan overlords.

Wasnt there a good documentary on the BBC recently (last year) about them?

If i remember they showed a bit of a cartoon of all this Xenu stuff.....looked a bit like a cheap ripoff of a 70's Flash Gordorn cartoon.

...and in penury bind them.

I am glad this dangerous cult is not recognised as a religion here, and long may it continue. It would be even better if it was expulsed from these shores.

I haven't seen these documents yet, maybe I'll go and download them before they're gone.

If scientologists consider simple documents to be advanced technology, they must consider computers to be purely the stuff of science fiction.

Doesn't this sound a little worrying on its own? Do you have to find a handy massacre ground? And if you don't live in Rwanda/the Former Yugoslavia, are you required to make your own? Maybe the Catholic Church was trying to improve its meditation techniques on its little sojurns to the Holy Land...

wasn't he the guy that used prehistory earth as a prison planet then blew up all the volcanoes killing the prisoners which freed their spirits and allowed them to become the body thetans??

i'd buy the book if iain banks wrote it

sounds like a corker

paris cos i wish i was a body thetan infesting her

You know, can't we collect up the sayings of amanfromMars and bind them into a copyrighted volume or two? At least he makes sense after you've studied his teachings for a while.

AmanfromMars deserves his own book! perhaps with a cd of the most twisted drum and bass ever to turn us all into wackos!

Rather ask what you can do for Anon.

13th April - Operation Reconnect

If you think the Cult of Scientology is a dangerous organisation both to its members and its critics, why not join in the protests and do something to help those in its clutches.

Last month, Anon partied hard with plenty of cake! :)

Amanfrommars only make sense after a heavy dose of mind altering drugs.

Paris cos; just cos!

April the 12th IIRC.

I'd buy a copy of "The sayings of amanfromMars". It'l be the "Doctrine of Advanced Technology" for a religion based on ElReg, amanfromMars, and the Holy Mackerel.

Don't worry L. Ron was a sci-fi writer. I'm still waiting for someone to find the piece of paper where he explains how it was all a massive joke - although I suspect a) the believers will refuse to believe it and b) the organization will have too much to lose to release it.

It’ll probably go something like this:

Ha,ha. You fools. You'd believe anything. Makes you think, doesn't it?

As was once stated "I may not agree with you, but I will fight to the death for your right to state it".

I hear a lot about people spouting crap, a lot of which I disagree with; but as long as they are not promoting the killing of innocent or infringing on other rights then this right has to be paramount. The issue is not whether you agree but how far are you willing to let business and gov't go to censor stuff and remove your rights. Today it is just a book like this, but in a few years time it could be your right to complain about thier being idiots on a forum.

Sound far fetched, just take a look at what the US, UK, and Canadian gov't are currently doing.

"How many Scientologists does it take to change a lightbulb?"

"Twenty. One to change the bulb, eighteen to stand around, and one to walk around and count bodies until he has a cognition."

...well...you can actually

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH6_3.HTM

Its all here...heal thyself

I suggest you check out about operation freakout. where they harassed and made up false bomb threats against themselves and others by paulette cooper, because she wrote a book critical of the Co$, they broke into her house and stole headed stationary that had her finger prints on.

Also watch the panorama documentary by John Sweeney, yes the one where he blows his top, you can see the same type of harassment going on. then watch the "panorama truth" video and looky here a bomb threat from either John Sweeney or the BBC. If you believe that the beeb or sweeney issued a bomb threat then you'll believe anything.

Oh by the way they mostly deny the wacky beliefs until too far in, because they claim that scientology is compatible with other faiths. By which stage the Co$ has so much stuff to blackmail you with through the "auditing sessions" it's dangerous to leave.

Is not really a religion and while it acts like a business, it's not that either. They are using advanced psychology and the so called OT levels are steps of self induced brainwashing. The so called 'getting rid of thetans' thing is actually the erasing of various parts of one's personality. They start with willpower and memories, then switch to various lower levels, until they earase everything that makes someone a person. Btw, this thing is called 'soul' by some older religions. When someone reaches the highest levels, they earse the control over basic biological functions. This makes someone 'clear' or in other worlds soulless.

If we think the church of science fiction psychology (short: scientology) is just a cult we are right, but they are one of the more dangerous kind, because all that someone finds in it is just death, just not their body, but their soul. I doubt even the leaders realize this though.

Pairs : becuase i like stale and unfunny jokes

If we're going to found a new religion, let me chuck in a couple of ideas:

(1) The universe is only 200 years old. (Hey, if the fundamentalist Christians can deny everything that predated the Agricultural Revolution, we ought to be able to deny everything that predated the Industrial Revolution.)

(2) Pre-pay confession. Instead of confessing your sins to a priest, you tell the priest how many Hail Marys and Our Fathers you have said and how many old ladies you have helped across the road, and you get given a choice of sins you can commit. Or you can save up the grace already accrued to use against a bigger sin the following week.

... I learned from the now infamous 'closet' episode.

Oh, and trying to read LRH's books!

Black Helicopter, 'cos it could all be a double-bluff?

Which SF writer came up with ElRonners - a mindless horde of joggers?

Anyway, El Ron was a poor writer, the same old Aryan Race tm. images of big chested, strong men and big chested, strong (but not quite as tall) women. Phil Farmer had odd aliens shagging blonde large-breasted women and humans shagging large-breasted women. Bob Heinlein gave us 'Stranger in a Strange Land' which seems to be adopted as the sort of New Testament of El Ron's blatherings. Even though they now read just a tad sexist the writing is miles better than El Ron could ever manage.

Better watch it though or Space Captain Travolta will be visiting on a bombing run. Accompanied by Space Cadet Cruise, of course.