Will Microsoft search products suddenly improve, or will Yahoo!'s go to shit? Because let's be realistic about this, Microsoft knows dick about search. You can get a KBA faster using Google...

Paris, because she ruined Hotmail, too.

So what is so attractive about Yahoo? What products and services would be expected to flourish under the dead hand of Microsoft management?

This is good news for us penguinistas. We get to watch while MS mismanage Yahoo and its FreeBSD-/Perl-/free software-loving employees into the ground, and at the same time MS lose $44bn from their cash pile. I really hope the EU don't oppose this one.

As a Microsoft shareholder what are our board doing to stop this crazy transaction? It's already wiped $6 off the share price, the offer will take the company into debt in a recession and there is no record of any merger of this size EVER returning positive shareholder value except for people in the acquired company. The integration costs are just too high and payback too small over too long a period.

If the MS board had balls they would have fired Bulmer years ago he's done NOTHING to increase the value of the stock during his tenure.

Well, at least they're persistent and not totally besuited. Their take-over of Flickr was not a total disaster - I'm still on board, at least. Their advice site is fun. An awful lot of people depend on their mail and messaging. The thought of M$ taking over is unpalatable to almost everyone but beancounting shareholders. With the market the way it is, an independent Yahoo seems necessary. Even a Google take-over would be preferable from the users' point of view. M$ is obviously completely indifferent to the fact that most of those who give Yahoo any kind of user cred will either jump ship ASAP or put on their lifejackets and get out on deck in readiness.

Strangle, stifle and stunt... with twice the bloat of Jabba the Hutt and half the charm...

during the writing of this letter.

>>Ballmer voiced his company’s frustration with Yahoo!’s dilly-dallying,

>> noting that there has been “no meaningful negotiation to conclude an agreement”.

No such thing as rejection: just no meaningful negotiation!

From anybody else the arrogance would be astonishing.

RIP Yahoo, and all of your open source support. :( Evil MS will win the day.

Penguin, because OSS is mourning.

My thoughts are why isn't AT&T taking any interest in this? I mean they have partnered up with Yahoo! to provide internet based applications. would make sense after looking at their strategic partners list.

http://www.corp.att.com/strategicpartners/

...it doesn't really fit too well with the names of the two businesses, but "Magoo" immediately sprang to mind.

Balmer is his best "Borg" voice:

Resistance is FUTILE!!!!!!

You will be assimilated!!!!!

Agree with the KB thing. MS's website search is rubbish, especially trying to find a particular download.

My worry is about the most excellent Zimbra groupware system that Yahoo decided to purchase last year. The best competitor to Exchange (far better IMO) there is, and based on trusted open-source technology!

MS will crush it, and I'll be annoyed :(

microsoft taking over yahoo is the best thing that could happen to it, it will put it out of its missery, it is underused, has a crap email system, is unreliable and slow, i pay $14 a year for a hotmail account have http acces through outlook, a 5gb sky drive (to store all my files etc) only had it not work once in the last 3 years of using it, and support is excellent, the only reason google is popular is because people think it is popular, when it fact it is driven by advertising and cookies which probably collect all sorts of stuff from your pc without you knowing, as for microsoft going into debt, $44million is hardly going to put a big dent in there bank accounts really

Yahoo! best text based email on the internet (html not so safe).

eBay! best ecommerce site on the internet.

Yahoo auctions not so good.

Ebay! messaging not so good. (poor)

Yahoo! search - OK...

Ebay search - Killer...

Yahoo! and eBay! team up and callit YuTo! (you guys only have three weeks eBay will be next if Yahoo! falls.)

Now go forth and kick butt!

Both Yahoo! and eBay! are undervalued.

MS = ADVERTISING

Google = ADVERTISING

they should buy each other

freddie

"Yahoo! can float junk bonds and make a leveraged buyout of Microsoft."

You, with the incredible irony, stop that right now!

Microsoft wiped $6 off the share price when they forgot to invent a mini OS for diddy laptops.

Fair enough, I only jess seed it meself.

But I am not a company making millions from an OS that is worth less than a Linux distro and selling it for the price of an XO.

$6.oo, that's hardly the real value of an XP OS is it? And it is $7.oo more than the value of a Visa OS (provided the Visa doesn't go down on your files and ruin your company. (Terms and conditions apply.))

Myself and the other three people on earth who use AltaVista are in consensus that Mihoo! would be a bad thing, but the name would be awesome. Mihoo!, Mihoo!, MihooOoo!. It just sings to ya.

"* For that money [44 BILLION DOLLARS] I'd want sharks with frickin' laser beams, not to mention an army of robot monkey butlers to pick up the broken furniture."......By John Latham Posted Monday 7th April 2008 03:49 GMT

For that sort of money you'd virtually easily get whatever you wanted, John, and it would be just so easy. Which highlights the problem being a Personal Mr Steve "I don't get this Virtualisation lark" Ballmer/MS "We haven't cracked this Virtualisation lark Code yet" Personnel problem.

***"And aren't Yahoo entangled with BT?"***

Yes, they are.

BT snuggling up with Microsoft as well as Phorm. Definitely time to move to another ISP.

Well it appears that MS will just go back to thier old tricks and strong-arm anyone they want.

Who wants to bid on how long MS can maintain thier current position with this type of attitude in the current market place.

This is all reminiscent of MS's earlier days, before their complete and total domination, they used to do hostile takeovers/buyouts or sue their competitors into liquidation. If they acquired a company with similar technology, they usually just shut the projects down and integrate anything they want into their own existing s/w. Surely this acquisition is anti competitive??

I run/use a yahoo groups list and use flickr, and pay for flickr. I've never paid MS for anything and would sure hate to lose flickr if it went into MSs and innovation killing greedy hands.

Having worked at Yahoo I would have to say that replacing the board (and most of the managers) would do it the world of good. It has no direction, it just tries to compete with google.. and fails. And for the record Microsoft are desperate to gain search market share in search on Google and so Yahoo is their best option for this.

"a quick and friendly transaction"

First time I've seen the words 'friendly' and 'Ballmer' in the same sentence.

I don't suppose he's considered the number of Yahoo subscribers who will jump ship if this happens. I like Flickr, but not enough to carry on with it under that sort of new management...

An introduction:

Andy, Shift key; Shift key, Andy - Charmed, I'm sure.

"Magoo" means "I can" in Russian, not an appropriate name for this could-be venture :)

"It's a miracle it works at all really."..... By Roger Heathcote Posted Monday 7th April 2008 11:39 GMT

Roger,

The Dodge worked well enough whenever the World was compartmented/partitioned/time zoned and knowledge couldn't be shared in an instant. Nowadays, the dodges needed to prevent the tricks of the trade and deeper knowledge being shared with all, are exposing the miracle to be a fat cat confidence trick perpetrated by self styled autocracies to oppress and dominate to maintain old style feudalism rather than anything else.

Building empires on the backs of the uneducated/undereducated and then constantly recycling their wealth generation into currency which employs the unskilled pencil pusher/executive decision maker/Intelligent Designer who are charging for nothing more than a service rather than a product, is only viable for so long before it all starts to fall apart with the pursuit of money and profit taking over from the value of the service provided.

After all, Profit aka Money for Nothing makes everything increasingly more and more expensive and banking the cash, and allowing the banks to gamble with it amongst themselves and also to feed themselves with freshly minted greenbacks [and boy is that a business which is guarded jealously ...... printing money] and then charging people for money which you and they need to spend in order to generate Industry and Intellectual Property/Product Flow is also another clanger which will crash the System ...... as sure as Eggs are eggs.

And expecting it to work again in just the same way, with the same trough feeders at the controls, as it used to, today for tomorrow, is a most certifiable madness which the System is rotten to its Core with.

Yahoo must die, microsoft must have total world domination, everything is easy to use, intuitive and reliable. yahoo wont even sync with outlook using imap, it has to use POP3 cmon how old is that, as for $44bn still not a lot to a company the size of microsoft now is it folks really. as for bt in bed with microsoft good thing if you ask me maybe microsoft will invest in the crap comms in the uk

Only goes to show that those from Mars are more evolved than those from Uranus ,

meanwhile we face a future as the "Brown" planet with he who would be "Flash" at the helm..............."Terra" indeed,stay soylent and it will all be just fine ( payments may be made by all major crunch cards , beads or even small pieces of coloured glass , just ask to speak to a Nad vice err )