Google mistakes search for teleportation
Chris Girocco
Subtle Invasion #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 19:45 GMT
The wiki example is an interesting 'invasion' of that Web property, in that it highlights the superiority of the Google search results in finding relevant information quickly, primarily due to format of abstracts and key word weighting, over the native Wiki search.
Try "oil supply world war II" and note how much easier it is to find an article relevant to the subject via Google.
On a side note: why doesn't a search for string 'wikipedia.com' invoke this 'teleportation' feature?
Rocco
b166er
No eBay? #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT
Didn't try it couldn't be bothered!
Could be a good thing if instead of 50 results for an item on eBay, I get one searchbar result for eBay and 49 results other than ones from eBay.
Bob Jones
Virgin Holidays #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT

Virgin Holidays gets one for some reason ... ooh ahh!
Nicholas Ettel
Googling Google to google Google #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT

If you search for Google in the search box, Google does not offer the same search box underneath the weblink. While, initially, this makes obvious sense as the Google search box is empirically and always at the top; but does it also NOT make sense provided the statement and logic derived therefrom? (obviously, again, Google has precluded themselves from their own algoRythm... but why?)
Right... right... coat, door, exit stage left.
communist
Or use.. #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT
"<search term> site:theregister.com" for example ;)
Anonymous Coward
I see another inane patent being issued #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT

On this trivial & obvious "search". Google, like Amazon, think that by giving something a new name, its a new invention. And the USPTO is stupid enough to swallow it.
Steven Knox
@Chris #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 20:23 GMT
"On a side note: why doesn't a search for string 'wikipedia.com' invoke this 'teleportation' feature?"
Probably because Wikipedia's actual site is wikipedia.org (wikipedia.com is just a redirect). Obviously, Google feels that when you search for a site, you should know the address of the site you're searching for ; )
No icon because I'd like an "evil google" icon, but they don't do evil, so there couldn't be such an icon...
Anonymous Coward
nothing new..... #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:33 GMT
this really isn't anything new. in fact it's already ava. at http://google.search.a-remotehost.com/
they (the folks at a-remotehost.com) also have a 'in a window' (at least that's what they cal it) version that opens a smaller browser google search window. they set it up so the user can keep a google window open, browse the web, then search any specific site they come across or search the web in general. sounds kinda like google saw something someone else was doing and decided to do the same.
Matthew Glubb
Re: No Ebay? #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:33 GMT

I am suprised that Google don't provide an Ebay search. Google could make a good living from Ebay by driving traffic to their site via searches. Oh, wait...
David Wiernicki
What do you think happens... #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 21:33 GMT

...if you google search for Yahoo?
Anonymous Coward
re: Googling Google to google Google #
Posted Thursday 6th March 2008 23:08 GMT

Haven't you watched the IT crowd?.... it'll break the internet it will
Mines the one with the gloves sewn to the sleeves
tfewster
So ther #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 01:21 GMT

> One of the trends we noticed while studying teleporting was that there were lots of searchers who would type the name of a specific website as if they wanted to teleport, but would then immediately issue another more refined search _within_this_ site. (_my_emphasis_)
So how did they know, unless clicking on a link actually opened the new site in a frame with Google monitoring the traffic? I doubt that "lots of searchers" know the "site:blah" syntax.
Or did the muppets just mean "Our engine returned so much crap, the user refined their search" ?
skeptical i
stuff Google already indexes? #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 06:01 GMT
@tfewster: Some websites (municipal, educational) have a "search powered by Google" widget; I'm not sure how exactly this works, but they probably have a "harvest keyword search queries" subroutine that allows them to see if/how folks use these search widgets on the specific sites, and if it'd be more "productive" (however they define it) to cough up a search box within the results for www.somesite.com
system
RE: So ther(e) #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 06:01 GMT
"So how did they know, unless clicking on a link actually opened the new site in a frame with Google monitoring the traffic?"
Have you not visited a lot of websites recently? Seems half the world is using google analytics, and the other half is using google syndication, both of which require javascript (and blocked here by noscript). There's no need for frame trickery when your spying tools are installed on any site the user might choose to visit.
tfewster
RE: RE: So ther(e) #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 08:31 GMT
@ system + skeptical i
Neat - And it's probably even more underhand than that, as the example they gave "NASA", _doesn't_ say "powered by Google" and NoScript doesn't list google-analytics as one of the sites blocked
Where's the tinfoil hat icon?
Shakje
Re: So ther (sic.) #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 08:31 GMT
There's no indication that they mean searching using the site's searching tools at all. Within that site just means using Google to search for results within that site. Am I the only person who that seems obvious to?
Avi
RE: Re: So ther (sic.) #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 10:44 GMT
No, I've done that a few times.
Google for, say, hmso. See from the results that it's at hmso.gov.uk (IIRC), then google for `<crap I want to find> site:hmso.gov.uk
Anonymous Coward
Anything for a Buck #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 11:34 GMT

Anything to know what you are doing..
Prunus Persica
Seems more preferential than algorithmic #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 12:59 GMT
It's probably be a combination of the two. Though it's still just a search within a search, so there's no need for it to called teleportation. Stealing an old word for marketing fools no one.
Anonymous Coward
For Teleportation read Interception #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 13:04 GMT

The prize here is simple. Keep the eyes of the masses on Google. If they are indexing Wiki then there is no need to use Wiki searching.. all fair, until the assisted advertising that will eventually come. If they have you reading wiki results from google they control the real estate, which means they can advertise more.
Quite insideous really. Jolly Roger because this is piracy on a grand scale and everyone is blinking in the headlights.
Register you need to add some Google CEO angel and devil, 'cos obviously they do no evil.
Ron Luther
Giveaway? #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 13:37 GMT

Odd. They 'give' this feature to Amazon but not Barnes and Noble. Lawsuit anyone?
I wonder how much they will charge the catalog sales folks; Eddie Bauer, L. L. Bean, etc. to add this to their records.
Anyone else amused that they enabled this for Microsoft?
Hayden Clark
It's a hack #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 13:59 GMT
it doesn't even work for amazon.co.uk.
I suspect a dose of:
if $searchterm in (amazon,nasa,...) then $teleportSearchMode = true;
Anonymous Coward
Feedback #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 15:11 GMT
I wonder if its a feature activated by the presence of a google search appliance reporting information back.
http://www.google.com/enterprise/public_search.html
Bruno Girin
I for one... #
Posted Friday 7th March 2008 18:46 GMT
...would welcome that feature for the IBM web site. It's impossible to find anything there by using their own search.
Christos Georgiou
Re: I for one... #
Posted Saturday 8th March 2008 03:49 GMT

IBM WEBSITE SEARCH RESULTS:
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