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US electronic surveillance bill trapped in political limbo

Henry Cobb

Why wait for Congress? 

Black Helicopters

If Bush needs a get out of jail card for his buddies he can pardon them now and prevent the need for an ex-post facto law.

All he needs to do is list the parties and their crimes.

Why leave them in legal limbo for a moment longer while their lawyers are burning up the fees?

-HJC

Anonymous Coward

Political surveillance during election times 

So they want to cut the judges out of the loop, because they want to do something judges won't approve of.

... during an election year....

... by one of the most political dishonest presidents in living memory....

... by departments stuffed with his cronies...

Gee, is that a good idea? D-U-H!

Perhaps if it's not legal they should be doing it?!

Andus McCoatover

@Henry 

Erm... So, Bush can create retrospective immunity laws.

What the fuc*k is to stop the next 4-th world prez. passing laws retrospectively repealing those 'retrospective' immunity "get-outta-Bubba's-room-free" tickets?

God, this is like a Pringles ad. Once you "pop", you can't stop....

Mine's the stripy black'n'white one with a 6-digit number.

Paul George

Can't pardon a 'non crime' 

Boffin

As it happens, the immunity is against civil suits for privacy infringement, which a pardon wouldn't affect. They are for criminal offenses (how about 'aiding and abetting'?).

Besides, the Govt took the amusing position that fact of whether or not the intercepts took place is in itself a state secret :-(

From my point of view enabling companies to assist the 'Guardians of Freedom' in committing crimes is a real bad idea. There is enough collusion and 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' as it is. Worse there is general criminal immunity for acts committed in office and impeachment is all but impossible. (perhaps 'judge not, lest you be judged' ;-) )

Henry Cobb

Ex Post Facto 

Black Helicopters

Will the US Constitution allow removing somebody's right to privacy retroactively or is its loss regarded as acceptable collateral damage from the Global War of Terror?

Anonymous Coward

Those kooky but nasty terror guys... 

Happy

...must be laughing so loud!