Jedi to open Surrey academy
Rich
Good luck to them #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:23 GMT
Well, I can't see the difference between basing a religion on some fictitious, fanciful notion portrayed in a work of fiction, and any other religion (which tend to be fictitious, fanciful notions portrayed in works of fiction)
Oh, actually, I can think of one difference - I'm guessing the Jedi folk won't be trying to subjugate and control the masses in order to fuel their own personal megalomaniac tenancies.
zedee
Acolytes in black t-shirt and black jeans #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:28 GMT

Slightly grubby with coke and pizza stains???
Sounds like your typical Star Wars-obsessed geek working at your local helldesk to me.
Anonymous Coward
Just over the county border from the Scientologists.... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:28 GMT

Now that should be an interesting fight on a friday night if they have a shared "local" ,
the Hordes of Xenu vs. the Knights of the Republic!
Fraser
GROW UP! #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:28 GMT
21 years old?
A certain Mr Pegg has a few things to say about this:
"...You don't know what it was like, you weren't there at the beginning, you don't know how important it was...
<Bailey> But what about the Ewoks, they were rubbish...
...Jah Jah Binks makes the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft!"
21 year old Jedi master my fucking arse.
BTW it IS only a film...
dervheid
Whatever... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:47 GMT

pseudo-religious, science fiction based mumbo-jumbo will people fall for next. (It was just a MOVIE! GET OVER IT!) Before you know it it'll be attracting all sorts of celebrities, swearing by it's precepts.
What?
That's happened already?
Surely not?
Well I never.
Peter Fielden-Weston
@Rich #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:47 GMT

"I'm guessing the Jedi folk won't be trying to subjugate and control the masses in order to fuel their own personal megalomaniac tenancies."
Or we won't notice it if they are. Because these are not the megalomaniacs we're looking for.
Goose
@ Rich #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 10:47 GMT
Actually, according to the 6-part DVD documentary I own, they do turn bad sometimes...
Sam
Question #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:00 GMT

How does Darth Vader know what Luke got for Christmas?
Answer; he felt his presents.
Brown cloak already on...
Karl Lattimer
Just for laughs #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:00 GMT

"Well, I can't see the difference between basing a religion on some fictitious, fanciful notion portrayed in a work of fiction, and any other religion"
Obviously neither do the scientologists *sigh*
Then theres the bible... We all remember what happened when they found the first page...
"Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon-dated in Bonne. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
George Lucas on the other hand... Now just because the stories were delivered to him in the company of Ewoks by a gold plated android does not mean they are any less real!
Steve Wehrle
Yoda with a Welsh Accent? #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:00 GMT

"lovely there is, boyo"
To be honest, I can find nothing wrong with this. Good luck to them.
@Fraser : "BTW it IS only a film..." : yes, but the Bible and Koran are just books. Both written when they still believed the world was flat.
Neil Hoskins
This is the End #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:12 GMT
While it was "just a film", putting 'Jedi' on one's census was a good way to register a protest at the government's plans to turn us into a religious state. When people really <i>do</i> take it seriously, though, we secularists have a problem. Any suggestions as to how we can register a protest at the next census?
Lol Whibley
to mis-quote Mr Vimes #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:14 GMT

Where's the money at?
fleecing wannabees ain't a crime and it's catering to the 'needs' of a potentially affuent client-base... and i bet they get business grants too..
there's money in them there geeks!
Paris, cos we need a Paris Academy.. no wait, that's over in Essex
Paul Gray
Well #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:23 GMT

Given when I see multi-faith charts I dont see Jedi upon them.
When somebody goes to do jury service, no copy of Star Wars can be found to allow a Jedi to swear in so they a forced to afirm.
Well, given those two facts alone, how long until they sue for descrimination, as for me it will put the whole relegion thing into perspective.
Mycho
Praise The Golden God! #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:28 GMT

He is mighty and will deliver us from this land in his ship of plenty that sometimes doesn't work unless you wallop it.
Walloping things makes them work.
Michael Habel
So does anyone here still remember that other Jedi Academy? #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:46 GMT

IIRC it was in Romania.
So how's that been getting on with these days??
b166er
"This is going worldwide." #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:46 GMT
Setting his sights a little low surely?
Wouldn't "This is going galactic." be more realistic?
Maybe they could help out with the errant satellite too.
On the next census, we could all put Neo/The One.
Dan
Been done #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 11:46 GMT
Actually, if it's just about becoming a better person through martial arts, meditation, and general self-improvement, I think you'll find a rather large number of martial arts schools throughout the country can already teach this, with the added bonus of genuine expert (read older, more experienced) instructors.
Not the kick-boxing places that just teach you to kick and punch, obviously, but find a decent Wu Shu, Bushido school etc and you're in business.
Steve Carter
suggestion #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT

: Any suggestions as to how we can register a protest at the next census?
Put "Sith"
Suspicious Git
@Neil Hoskins #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT
Well you could try 'pagan' 'witch' 'wicca' ' blairite' or as a real laugh
conservative, labour, or liberal.
Just as much a faith in a fanciful work of fiction and I guess therefore a religion
jason
Theyv't got nothing on LOTR fans #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT
Whilst Star Wars geeks maybe the template for grubby underpants wearing, spotty nerds of film fan-dom, nothing and I mean nothing, beats the utter level sadness that is Lord of the Rings fans; Star Wars fans are ambassadors or dignity compared that lot.
alistair millington
We need the academy #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT

...Afterall the dark lord of the sith is here in the white house, Bush and his apprentice Blair. (Now spreading the word...)
Lord Baphomet
OMG #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT

I think it's just a cheap trick to get high ranking jobs in the police...
Because that's the only way these guys will ever get to "use the force".
BTW: "Paris, cos we need a Paris Academy.. no wait, that's over in Essex" -- NO, that /is/ Essex.
Mine is the brown robe hanging next to that purple light-sabre.
Mike Crawshaw
How......? #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:01 GMT

are they teaching lightsabre techniques?? I mean, really, HOW??
"OK, imagine this stick is actually a lightsabre. Now I'm going to teach you certain techniques that would only work if it WAS a lightsabre, and you also have telekinetic Force powers. Which of course you do."
As a martial artist, I want to sit in on one of these just for the grins.
Christoph
@ Neil Hoskins #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:02 GMT
"Any suggestions as to how we can register a protest at the next census?"
The Flying Spaghetti Monster
The Invisible Pink Unicorn
Bob
P Saunders
Lightsabre training? #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:09 GMT
Just how the hell do you train using a technology that doesn't exist? And those Jedi mind tricks? How many of those geeks are going to get the living crap beaten out of them because they ignored the second half of their fight or flight response in favour of pseudo-mind control when face-to-face with their enemies? Spare us.
Louis
@ b166er #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:30 GMT

"On the next census, we could all put Neo/The One"
Shouldn't that be 'the path of Neo'?
How about 'the way of Gordon'? - just in case the Combine *do* turn up...
Or (my personal favourite) 'Kama Sutra; make love not war' - bringing about global peace through spreading the love in a variety of interesting ways...
Mine's the one with the jumbo pack of Durex in the pocket...
Rich
@P Saunders #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:30 GMT
"...Just how the hell do you train using a technology that doesn't exist? And those Jedi mind tricks?..."
Ah, I see you do not believe.... This is why you fail (*), young Saunders...
(*) ...or maybe you've just got your head screwed on? :-)
dervheid
Genetic Manipulation... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:30 GMT

@ P Saunders
This element should help to enrich the gene pool. Expect to see one of these 'Jedi' in the "Darwins" in the not too distant future (about 2 years, after they complete their 'training'!)
Evil Graham
What these guys need... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:30 GMT

Is a girlfriend.
Paris, of course.
Steve Sutton
@ fraser & dervheid #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:35 GMT

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
David S
@Neil Hoskins #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:49 GMT

You could try "Bright" (http://www.the-brights.net/)
Anyhoo. Sounds like an excuse for a bit of a laugh. Can't honestly see them trying to use their "powers" for real, and it's a reasonable way to find a bunch of like-minded people to have a giggle with down the pub. In my younger days I'd probably have been up for it myself...
Praise Bob indeed.
Richard Williams
good idea, bad name #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:55 GMT

I think it's not a bad idea- if they are truly promoting peace and order - hopefully not with a blend of Lucas-style capitalism. I say go for it, but I think the usage of the word 'church' is probably a bad idea. Not only does it suggest some hidden Christian undertone, it may turn people away by association of the word. Jedi Temple, being the description used within the star wars universe, would seem to me to have been a better choice.
Paul
It's just a name... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:55 GMT
At the end of the day, Jedi, Scientology, Christian etc. are all just a label used to try and describe what someone believes in a general context. Whilst in this day and age, it's become very popular to ridicule all religions, actually having a belief and living to a better moral code is nothing to be ashamed of.
They're not actively trying to turn others to their beliefs, nor do they seem to be trying to con people out of their money. All in all, rather benign and not worth worrying about!
Adam Foxton
"pseudo mind-control" - P Saunders #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 12:55 GMT

From my understanding, neuro-linguistic programming isn't so much "these are not the droids you're looking for; move along" as choosing words, tones, etc to diffuse a situation.
It works, but then from experience so does pointing over their shoulder, shouting "UNEXPECTED SHEEP!" and legging it to a taxi rank.
And Lightsaber technique would be, I'd assume, similar to the swordsmanship techniques of old. Except with a pretty powerful gyroscope in the handle to make it a little more "realistic".
As someone further up said, imagine the LOTR equivalent... "right, wear these furry slippers and carry this nice heavy osmium ring round your neck, then lets walk for a week or two.", or nights out where 20 furry-slippered nerds shuffle up to the bar, order a few lagers and declare loudly "IT COMES IN PINTS?!"
Keith T
If you think this is silly . . . #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 13:10 GMT

. . . then you need to be reminded of David Ike.
As Yoda might say (if he wasn't CGI and latex) "Life you need to get a".
Adrien DuPreez
@Neil Hoskins #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 13:27 GMT
If any census needs to know my religion, I religiously believe in Murphy's law. Therefore religion gets marked as 'Murphist'
Liam Johnson
@Keith T #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 13:48 GMT

"Life you need to get a".
Shouldn't that be
"A life you need to get, umm".
Brian Northcutt
Make it real #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 13:48 GMT

no.we cant give them real lightsabers.. but i do believe they need to spar with live steel, sharpened to as fine an edge as possible. real lightsabres are deadly. we owe it to their training to make it as realistic as possible. not only will the steel inflict injury, but as they are being used for lightsabre simulation, any limb suffering a wound will be amputated and the stump cauterized. in case of a torso or head injurty, the wounded trainee will be killed in an object lesson designed to teach the students how deadly serious the use of a lightsabre is, encouraging them to focus on peaceful resolutions to problems
Dan
By Suspicious Git #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 13:49 GMT

Tsk tsk keep that comment to the Wiccan's. Don't include the Pagans and Witches in there. (Big difference between us and Wiccans.) And yes some do believe in some weird rubbish, but some of us (Traditional Witches for example) believe in more sensible things.
Fair point about the political parties though. lol
Evil Graham
@Dan - Witches? #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 14:30 GMT

So - you're a witch then?
At this point I am very eager to hear in great detail all about the "sensible things" you believe in. Not because I'm interested, but more for the inevitable onslaught of derision that only Reg readers can unleash.
Game on.
PS - please don't put a spell on me via the magic of TCP/IP
Michael H.F. Wilkinson
@ Adam Foxton / PRENATAL BIRTH #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 14:43 GMT

UNEXPECTED SHEEP is brilliant!
A friend of my father used to get into cricket matches through the members' entrance by saying "PRENATAL BIRTH" quickly. Simply befuddle people and their linguistic centres crash and need to reboot. I hear unexpected quotes of Shakespeare help in this respect.
My judo teacher allways said doing the 100 m (714.28571 lg) dash in 12 seconds or less was the best self-defense, but first resetting your opponents brain helps a treat.
b shubin
Qualified technologist #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 15:04 GMT

@ Adrien
that would be "Murphyite" (anything that can go wrong, will), and for the devout practitioner, "High-Church Murphyite" (most things go wrong, given time - consider a government, any government...).
technologists have a special affinity for the way of Murphy, because we study and maintain arcane, complex systems for a living. engineers used to be the only known practicing Murphyites, but progress and entropy have made the faith much more pervasive.
Stu
Who the hell... #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 15:08 GMT

...bestowed upon them the title of Jedi Master exactly, did Lucas pop over and give them his blessing!?
Anybody have a midichlorian counter gadget I could borrow?
They may not currently be as insidious as the Scientologist nuts, but they sound like a bunch of chancers out to extort cash from certain fat people, you know, ones who feature in internet video virals poncing around with plastic light sabers. This IS how scientology started out.
...But I suppose its no different to handing your cash over to Linden Labs or Blizzard entertainment.
Anonymous Coward
Becoming a better person thru general self improvement #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 15:38 GMT
Ah. We are all Masters now of ourselves and our logic therefore.
So, anyone want to get together and start The Real Church of Mathematics?
Michael
Now who can we get as the "axis of evil" #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:12 GMT

Anyone planning to build a "death star" anytime soon?
Mark
@Steve Carter #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:12 GMT
Stop faking the sith.
Sorry, better get my good teeth in...
miika
@Evil Graham - Ducks #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:31 GMT

Oh come on, surely you know the way to find out rather than just *asking* if he's a witch!
Eduard Coli
Elron would be pleased #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:31 GMT

Will there be classes in Sith studies?
I'd imagine you would need to be an advanced Jedi Master then specialize in Sith.
Juliette Martens
@ Peter Fielden-Weston #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:53 GMT

"Or we won't notice it if they are. Because these are not the megalomaniacs we're looking for."
Or because they will have mind-tricked us into believing that they aren't.
The helmet and astmathic vocal chords please.
Mark
@Eduard Coli #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 16:56 GMT
Obviously the Sith courses would be Knight classes....
PS Since my longer answer didn't get through:
Frasier, I completely agree (is the sarcasm tag on?)! How DARE grown ups have fun and play about!!! We are meant to be SERIOUS and SENSIBLE grown ups! Leave playing for the children!!!!