Cable cutter nutters chase underwater conspiracies
Repo
They are all wrong... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 05:05 GMT

It was Elvis... I saw him a few weeks ago practicing diving in our local pool with a snorkle and a hacksaw...
Jesus Puncher
Hang on #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 05:05 GMT
"So it looks like the tin foil-dawning contingent will have to jump on another story to feed their conspiracy fetish. This one, it would appear, is coming up empty."
Hang on a second. I thought the whole point of the article is that you will have to wait and see what has actually happened.
Why have you decided that it is "coming up empty"? Just wait until you know some information and leave it at that!!
Jeez. The Sun reporting posing as New Scientist.
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Tim Brown
Um.... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 05:05 GMT

... deep, deep under the sea, cables being mysteriously cut....
I for one welcome our new deep-sea overmonster. New York is that-a-way, matey.
CR
reduced spam #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:39 GMT

well.. i encounter - from at least 10 days - a diminshed number of spam emails... like 5 vs. 50 per day. maybe is just a coincidence, or is a light side of the conspiracy ;)
Alex Read
It's obviously #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:39 GMT
a clumsy mistake by Nessie or Godzilla on vacation ...
Howard Longden
Ooooh it's all coming true. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:39 GMT

In my distant memory I remember reading an Arthur C. Clarke short story about some shrimp/squid like creatures attacking an underwater installation.
Perhaps it's another one of his stories/prophecies coming true.
Too many hyphens/slashes in there.
TeeCee
Or alternatively..... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:39 GMT

In reality everybody thinks that the cable problems are accidents.
The blog traffic and Digg posts are products of a joint conspiracy between the CIA, Al-Qaeda, the estate of Elvis and the Lizard people operating on behalf of the Bavarian Illuminati to raise the general level of paranoia in the world.
This has been an important safety announcement brought to you by the Teapot council.
Martin Usher
So this the Doom bit... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT
We're always been treated to Domesday scenarios of "What happens when the interweb fails/gets taken over by terrorists/whatever" but now bits of it have failed its proved to be a nuisance but not exactly the end of the world as we know it.
A bit like the famous 2K bug, really.
Anonymous Coward
Security researchers #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

"I've seen all kinds of just crazy, crazy postings on Digg," said Stephan Becket, a research director at TeleGeology. "It's completely absurd speculation on the web right now and nobody really knows anything."
Hmm. Network security research now consists of reading Digg? Maybe I ought to sign up and sway the balance a bit... pathetic. I think these Web-2.0-esque 'security' companies are just as superficial and moneygrabbing as their 'social nerdworking' companions.
Tim Ling
What cables were cut? #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

"In Myanmar they managed to have it off for two weeks but they couldn't take it. "
Sounds like that could be painful
amanfromMars
Carefully Reckless ....... Je T'AIme ...... Astute Total Information Awareness #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

"said Stephan Becket, a research director at TeleGeology. "It's completely absurd speculation on the web right now and nobody really knows anything." ..... Then give them something that they can Know, Stephan.
Tell them what is being interrupted...... Deep Thought Quantum Communications ....AI Colossus of a CyberIntelAIgent Program with ITs Bases in Space's Spaces. Virtually Impregnable Fortesses. El CID Citadel with CyberIntelAIgent Designs 42 Share as in Gift.
I Kid U Not, Cisco.
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Ralph B
Geek Squad #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

It was obviously all done by a BOFH motivated by 1) outsourcing and 2) the amount of far eastern spam.
But where did the equipment come from, you ask:
- http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=knife
Indeed, if you jumped off a boat with this baby:
- http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8b97/
you'd soon enough be at cable depth.
AH
Cthulhu F'Tang! #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT
Risky
@ Jesus Puncher #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

No. You try and start with the most obvious solution and only start your conspiracy thing once there is a issue with that.
As ever, the problem with the Tinffil-hatters is that they assume a conspiracy until you can prove otherwise, which given that the consiracy is generally a secret, is rather hard to do............
Karl
This all... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

sounds like the opening chapters of a Dirk Pitt mystery. It's all a plan by Billy Gates to take over the world. The only problem is he has his Vista team as his minions.
Chris W
@Nobody can cut it everyone uses it. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT
"In Myanmar they managed to have it off for two weeks but they couldn't take it."
If they'd kept that up they wouldn't have had to cut anything, it would have dropped off.
Alex
I've told you who's doing it... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:45 GMT

its S.P.I.T.O.
*Society for the Prevention of Information Technology Outsourcing
Hate2Register
Stop writing this bollocks, you're only encouraging them.. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 09:46 GMT

Yep, you're all freaks. FREAKS i tell you. Only I control the internet..
Anonymous Coward
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not after me... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT

Hi guys, regarding the whole everyone from terrorists to grannies etc....
Yeah you're right, everyone uses the internet. But....
Knowledge is power, wars have been won and lost through information manipulation...the internet stops people from having that level of control...
So why would a terrorist group/political party etc want to cut off internet access? To control what information people have access to.
Just to fuel the whole conspiracy thingy, let me leave you with a quotes...
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times in enemy action" - Churchill
Thomas Kenyon
The True Villain #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT
Please, It's clearly Marcus Brigstocke, or another Irate BT customer trying to kill off a few BT Callcentres.
3x2
Digg #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT
"I've seen all kinds of just crazy, crazy postings on Digg,"
No shit!
I too welcome our new undersea overlords
Karl Lattimer
increased spam #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT
In the last 10 days I've had a dramatic increase on spam getting through my filters (spamassassin + rules du jour) about 5 a day vs. none...
Peter Gathercole
@Tim Brown #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT

Surely it must be Godzilla, although he (she) is a long way from Tokyo (homage to original nipponese films, not Hollywood). When do we have to appeal for Mothra's help to protect our Internet?
Slaine
5 cables cut #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT

any higher bids...
tim chubb
aint it obvious... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT

just send in sharky and george...
amanfromMars
Sun Worship .......at the Common Denominator Prime Level #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT
"In Myanmar they managed to have it off for two weeks ...." is QuITe Divine and more than enough information for Processing/Enrichment. No wonder the neighbours are smiling. A Land of Smiles in Deed indeed
Anonymous Coward
no no #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:33 GMT
No, It's Dr Congo - he's sitting on his thrown atop a flat bed toyota truck, his bois just trying to black out the continent so they can throw a truelly epic party. When connection is restored the whole continent will be empty, just beer bottles, bodies, burnt down buildings and spent ammunition.
Anonymous Coward
Pedant alert! #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:47 GMT

"So it looks like the tin foil-dawning contingent"
You mean "donning". Dawning has a long vowel, whereas donning (to put on, to wear) has a short vowel.
Any chance of a pedant icon...?
Anonymous Coward
Five cables cut, now... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:47 GMT

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/02/fourth_undersea.html
"first, happenstance, a second, coincidence, a third is enemy action"... We're on to number five...
Do tinfoil-hats protect Fibre Optic cables?
Sarah Bee
Re: Pedant alert! #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:50 GMT

Nope. Tinfoil Dawn. It is the new Thing. Get with it. We are doing t-shirts.
Sam
Ah harrr, me farties... #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 10:50 GMT

Avast behind! etc., etc.
You must admit 4 in the same week is cause for conjecture, though.
In fact, you could say it's a bit fishy.
The Sou'wester, thanks matey..
Water Taxi!
Nick Pettefar
Stingray! #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 11:41 GMT
Send in the underwater puppets! Better make sure their strings aren't cut though...
I never could understand how they managed to work the puppets so far under the sea. Amazing!
Frumious Bandersnatch
Summary of the conspiracy #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 11:41 GMT

This image said it best...
http://strategyunit.blogsome.com/images/eurovdollar.gif
♪ Under the Sea ... ♫
Archie Crane
Cutter nutter should target sitcom clutter #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 11:52 GMT

Where's the cable that brings all the crap American TV shows and old Lucille Show re-runs into the UK?
Brrringg-ding-ding-ding-ding;
..just getting the old chainsaw ready
Anonymous Coward
Moby dick #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 12:30 GMT

I blame the fish...
See US Patent 6771863
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6771863-description.html
"Accordingly, one of the objects of the invention is to provide an underwater fiber-optic cable which solves or alleviates the foregoing problems, and particularly a cable which is relatively light-weight but robust and flexible, and resistant to environmental attacks, such as by chewing fish and other sea life."
2FishInATank
@ Archie Crane #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 12:30 GMT

"Brrringg-ding-ding-ding-ding"
I don't think that the Crazy Frog will work at that depth....
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Huw Davies
@Alex #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 12:37 GMT

SPITO?
Could I invite you to join COCOA?
(The Campaign to Outlaw Contrived and Outrageous Acroynms)
Jamtits
It must be a new craze to drag one's anchors in the middle east. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 13:15 GMT
England cut transatlantic communications cables that enabled Germany to communicate with the rest of the world at the outset of the war with Germany. Germany then had to use wireless communications that were intercepted by the Allies.
At the outset of the war, the Germans had five transatlantic cables that ran through the English Channel. One went to Brest in France, another to Vigo in Spain, one to Tenerife in North Africa and two to New York via the Azores. The English cable ship Telconia cut them all in England's first offensive action in the war. This left a cable that ran between West Africa and Brazil that was largely American-owned that the Germans could use. In short order the allies ended that source of direct cable communications with the overseas world. Consequently, Germany was forced to use their powerful wireless station at Nauen, just a few miles outside Berlin. From this moment, German messages were routinely picked from the air and began pouring into the offices of British Naval Intelligence. In order to capture this flood of information, four new allied listening stations were established along the English coast with direct wires to Admiral Hall's offices. The positive result from this investment could not be overemphasized.
Anonymous Coward
lesson to learn #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 14:05 GMT

The moral of the story is that most people who comment on articles are gobshites. The preceeding statement is its own proof.
Anonymous Coward
Conspiracy ... well #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 14:07 GMT
So 100 cuts per year : hence 1 every 3.65 days ... with the two 1st noticeable cuts on Tuesday the 29th of Jan, the fourth not being on but a power outage.
We're left with (7th of Feb) 9 days and 5 cuts 1 off because of power, take another one off because it is the starting point so altogether 3 new cuts over 9 days so 1 every 3 days ... as opposed to the average 3.65. I'm assuming that any other cut would have been reported during that laps due to the amount of paranoia involved ... but I might be wrong.
Considering that the Mediterranean sea is quite a busy place thanks to Suez and that all the cables seem to funnel thru Suez (http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/images/Cable_Map_big.gif) ...
well it might be easier/likely to cut through a bunch of cables. and perhaps the cables weren't that well maintained.
Conspiracy anyway:
Assuming 5 cuts are the suppa duppa evil enemy's act chose one of the following
1) a swordfish with cemented tungsten carbide tips, created by our good enemy Bin.
2) a EU president that does not want some pictures of him and Carla to leave Egypt
3) a Geordie laid off recently
May be the answer is with the cables not being cut off in this area ... may be it's more a matter of overwhelming than blackout-ing.
COCOA ... that's kind of derogatory to Mac users ...
amanfromMars
@It must be a new craze to drag one's anchors in the middle east. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 14:38 GMT

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Anonymous Coward
Methinks digg doth protest too much #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 15:15 GMT

The cable was clearly cut by Ron Paul supporters who wanted to suppress news of his poor showing in Tuesday's primary.
Jamtits
@amanfrommars #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 15:41 GMT

Have you been smoking drugs son?
Paris wields the question mark this comment needs.
Nat Pryce
I blame Bacofoil Ltd. #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 16:06 GMT
Demand for tin foil rises. A coincidence?
Geoff Mackenzie
OK, ok, I admit it #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 16:37 GMT
...but have you seen what PC World charge for a few metres of CAT 5?
David Janda
Bollocks to Stingray #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 18:37 GMT

International Rescue could sort this out double-quick sharp.
Thunderbirds capped an underwater oil spill in no time, and Jeff was on holiday too!
Stingray? Pah!
Bounty
I'm waiting for the anti-cutter conspiracy #
Posted Thursday 7th February 2008 18:39 GMT

In a few day's we'll all be laughing over this, and worried about the real problem. Going 4 days w/o a cable being cut.
"How... How did they fortify the cables in just a few days.... to make them un-cuttable! The carbon nanotube-crystaline-stranglet catalyzation of our cable sheaths by the (insert cult/alien here)."