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Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 12:22 GMT
the 'Land of the Free'.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 12:22 GMT
I mean - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyrZmBR054M
Offensive?
Tsk.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 12:44 GMT
The king led Spain to become a democratic state as well as prevent a coup d'état (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23-F). This makes the king and his direct family untouchable in the eyes of many here in Spain. Adding the fact the he told Chavez to shut up will only increase the popularity of the monarchy.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 13:01 GMT
... Gordon Brown looking at the cover of Private Eye and thinking...
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 13:43 GMT
I think you'll find that Gordo would be unable to sue for libel as he truly is a useless cunt.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 15:40 GMT
In spain they get 2500 euros per sprog .... we get a £250 child trust fund voucher (like thats really going to be worth anything in 18 years snort) or if you are a member of the great unwashed dole layabouts you get £750.... which is never cashed in cos you can't spend it on drugs, fags or booze.
Actually had a look at the cartoon after hearing about it on the radio.. its quite funny actually ... the spanish goverment has no sense of humour.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 15:49 GMT
The cartoon version on Youtube looks more like Prince Chales to me. Of course these royals are all related in one way or another.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 16:01 GMT
....free speech and monarchy are incompatible.
Anyway, where's the Paris Hilton angle?
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 16:41 GMT
...freedom of the press? We don't need no steenking freedom of the press!
Can't have those large conglomerates making negative comments about the next ruler of Spain! What WERE the legislators thinking when they passed that drivel?? What's next - no negative comments about any politician? Oh, wait, they've already done that too. Next up - no voting against the incumbent.
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 16:59 GMT
me, but I wonder where one does start to reverse the trend towards, "If I've got a thought - no matter how inane, insulting or gratuitous - and a forum, I've got a right to publish it."
Self-restraint and good taste both being extinct, isn't this just a (somewhat) heavy-handed attempt at an artificial replacement?
Posted Wednesday 14th November 2007 17:05 GMT
Well, I for one got some giggles from that cartoon. Yes, I know that the Spanish King is mostly responsible for a return to democracy in Spain after Franco, and crashing the 1981 coup, but this is mild political humor at its best. The ban actually made the frontpage make the ... um... frontpage of lots of newspapers worldwide!
Reminds me of the "offensive video" offending the Thai King some time ago, leading to the Thai gov't banning YouTube nationwide. Sheesh...
Posted Thursday 15th November 2007 00:51 GMT
>me, but I wonder where one does start to reverse the trend towards, "If I've got a thought - no matter how inane, insulting or gratuitous - and a forum, I've got a right to publish it."
yeah, god forbid people should be allowed express themselves. Perhaps we should appoint you as the guardian of "self-restraint and good taste"? Then you could decide what is "inane, insulting or gratuitous".
While I'll agree with you that there is plenty of "inane, insulting or gratuitous" content out there, I have a simple solution for you. Don't read/watch/listen to it. The sad thing is that this cartoon is actually making a valid political point.
Frankly, the concept that a family is "ordained by god" to lead a country is far more offensive to me.
Posted Friday 16th November 2007 19:05 GMT
The king was imposed by Franco and the army as a condition to their accepting a "democracy" rather than their having a fight over Franco's successor.
It is widely believed that the king was involved in the coup d'etat and then turned on his mates and shopped them when he got cold feet about the whole thing.
Most Spaniards I know would happily exchange him for Paris Hilton* 'cos she at least has her own cash and wouldn't need to sponge off the Spanish tax-payer so much**.
Dave.
* Apparently obligatory reference
** Though I doubt that that would stop her. (See Liz II for more information).