The thing about microsoft is, if it finds standard, it automatically has to 'extend' and breach that standard. It has to do it to its own 'standards' to force everyone to upgrade.
These guys have put back computing for long enough! They must be ignored.
Could be good
This has the potential to be very good for web standards but it depends on what is done about the report at the end of the day.
It's hard to believe Microsoft will do good as a result of this going on their past record, but at the end of the day someone had to do it and realistically the same needs to be done for CSS.
Let's just hope some good and better adherence to standards comes of this!
My goodness, they're evil.
When Redmond gets involved, it is never, ever "for the common good" - so as the article hints at, this is probably the first attempt towards the "Compatible with IE" garbage."
Didn't we have all that in the 90s already? People having the "Works with Netscape" and "Works with Internet Explorer" graphics? Wasn't the idea to move away from that kind of mess?
This is just going to screw everything up, in the way only Microsoft truly knows how. I'd like to think that it is to make IE better, but nothing in their history really would lead me to really, honestly believe that.
At which point, he was promptly assassinated by guerilla Grammar combatants.
A Good Thing
Surely it is? And if it leads to modifications (codification of de facto practices) to the standards then that too is 'a good thing'.
yeah - or nay?
Potentially this could be great; potentially it could also be the most damaging thing to happen to web development since the IE/NS wars.
This will be GREAT if MS actually throw some money/time at their aging hunk-of-crap browser and bring it into line with what everyone else is doing. Once IE had market dominance MS just left it to rot (as it's not a money-spinner) - it's so far behind Opera in basic functionality it's unreal... but since it's all tied into mshtml.dll I suspect they're stuck with at least some of their own stale faeces as I doubt anyone actually knows what will break if they alter that dll too much (there's a lot of third party apps that sit on top of it). They might be better starting IE again and doing it right... but that of course would separate it from the core of the OS and remove their ability to bundle it with Windows (without running into yet another abuse of monopoly position investigation).
I'm all for MS/IE adopting the standards that are in place (the css box model would be a good place to start), however judging by past practices it seems more likely they'll try and twist the standards to suit themselves... and if they manage that, everything that ever worked across all the other browsers/platforms will become obsolete.
Isn't W.A.S.P. the World Aquanaught Security Patrol?
I bet they'd rather be battling Subterraneans than Microsoft anyday.
Microsoft and "standard compliance"?
I will believe it, when i see it. Until then, I will still expect then to go with the "MSIE compliant" scheme...
Hmm, isn't this a "net neutrality" issue? In some far-stretched way...
I bet IE comes out on top
it will come out as top of compliant browsers on M$ charts ...
... and as top of non compliant on everyone else's
isn't it great to be first whatever the measure?
Isn't it against Microsoft's EULA to publish the result of performance tests like this, if a 3rd party conducts the test on a Microsoft product?
So isn't it a little ironic that they are going to publisise that they are going to do exactly just that to everyone elses programs!
Good to see Microsoft are up-to-date with their research. Opera is at version 9.24 (stable) with 9.5 on it's way (currently in beta).
What about RSS
Since IE is the worst browser for RSS compatibility.
Remember, this is Microsoft -- the company that likes standards so much that whenever it finds one, it does its best to create another.
If it wasn't for Microsoft, the web would all be working to the same W3C standard.
What's that called?
The nice thing about standards
is that there are so many to choose from!
My Favorite Quote
A little switcheroo...
"The point is that [HTML] developers shouldn't have to detect and workaround such issues. [HTML] should work the same across all implementations. We believe this is the first step in making [HTML] better," Lakshman blogged.
Yes Mr. Lakshman I wholeheartedly agree!
If MS had half a clue
They would follow Apple's path, take an open source browser that already works then stick a badge on it.
There's only one reason MS bothers at all with IE and that's because they get to control the search box (and the ad revenue that represents).
They could take Firefox, 'tweak' the search box to default to Live Search, slap on a bit of chrome to make it blend in with the rest of the system, Job done, *everyone* is happy.
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