Security ....... Secret ...... Sources

Mark,

Would you know categorically, if that was Astute NEUKlearer Class?

AI Leading Question?!.

And I ask because of Increased Awareness InterNetworking IAIN in Virtual IntelAIgents Planes and Proxies. Bletchley Boffinry into AIMagical Mystery Turing via Direction and Control of Binary Systems for Digital AIManagement.

A Master reProgramming Program bringing Sun moonshine to the Cloud for AI Party? Of course, ..... and naturally, can IT takes you to the Stars and All that is Beyond and Behind them.

When the Network is the Computer is the Grid ITs Virtualised Machine?

Not that would be a Crack Hacker's Dream Machine.

Is the Computer a Network? Have both been entered to their Cores with NSE [Non Secret Encryption]?

How will it be silent?

"The design would eliminate moving parts found in a traditional heatsink, and should be virtually silent."

How?

Not to be pedantic, but I've never seen a heatsink with any moving parts. An HSF, while appearing to be one product, is two distinct products -- the heatsink, and the fan. The fan is not part of the heatsink.

I can't imagine how this heatsink will operate without a fan. It may be more efficient at pulling heat away from the CPU, but you still need something to pull/push that heat away from the heatsink itself. That's where the fan comes in. Standing air isn't good at dissipating heat.

Correction.... Disambiguation

"Not that would be a Crack Hacker's Dream Machine." ..should read... Now that is a Cracked Hacked Dream Machine with No Defence, Real or Virtual to Zero Day String Code Servered as Future Memory.

The Direction that Future Memory takes is linked inextricably to the Fortunes of IT Memory Architects so at least you know who you should be paying for Reality, rather than them injecting Binary Code into the Grid System for a Danegeld Bonanza outside of Federal Control.

A BanzAI Bounce to Assist Struggling Economies rather than an effective attack on the busted Capitalist System?

But keep listening to the news ....it paints whatever picture you want when there's money involved.... http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article2599470.ece

........ but there has to be some truth behind the stories for them to flourish and grow Sequoia tall rather than wither on the Rising of the Sun.

Pulp Fiction in ...Pulp Fiction out. Feed IT a Good Script and will IT Produce a Transparent Picture for all to see ITs Workings?

Now there's a novelty.

MHD?

Sounds fusion-powered. Then again, this is Sun...

Hmm...

That actually sounds quite smart. Worlds first Active Heatsink? I'd want to see some benchmarks before jumping on any bandwagons though, would be interesting to see what happens if you strap a couple of Delta fans on it though. ;)

Standing air

It will work if the heat sink is large enough, maybe its 3 feet tall :)

@Chris (blimey, they're multiplying!)

The need for a fan is due to the inefficiency of the heatsink and it's inability to conduct heat evenly - the bulk of the heat sits over the CPU and gradually dissipates.The fan blows cold air over the base of the sink as well as the fins to transfer the heat to the air more quickly.

Sun's design allows the heat to be transported over a much greater area much more quickly, allowing the heat time to spread through the fins and into the air.

Nice idea, although it looks a little big!

Chris

I wish I had patented it

It's an idea I have heard of long ago but did not know anyone was going to build. It is simple and brilliant. Noise elimination is only part of the application. This heat sink should use less power than a heat sink fan unit. It does not really apply to the individual, the power use differential is minor for one CPU. The application is server farms where power consumption is huge and fan noise is a work place hazard that can be done without. I never liked wearing ear protectors in the machine room.

What moving parts?

Last time I looked at a traditional heatsink, there was only one part (apart from the greasy part), and it din't move at all (at least not until I started fiddling with it).

@amanfrommars

"Seems 'he' is on top form again, anyone know what he's on about?"

Yes, I do ..... and IT is all about AI Proper Change ... A Vision for the Future to be Implemented in Practice ...[Crikey .... AI Prudent Bastard Child/Heir on a GCHQ String?] ..... http://jamesstgeorge.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=Worldissues&action=display&thread=1191580192&page=1#1191741139

"I'd want to see some benchmarks before jumping on any bandwagons though, would be interesting to see what happens if you strap a couple of Delta fans on it though. ;)" Hmmm. Stone me, is that a black helicopter, MK Ultra AIMuse? AI Skunk Works Phishing Line?

Not new

"Sun"'s revolutionary heatsink design, while clever, is actually not that new - Sapphiretech trialled an almost identical concept with GPU coolers a good couple of years ago making use of "liquid metal" coolers designed by nanoCoolers that worked on exactly the same principal of electromagnets within the heatsink pumping the metallic liquid around to spread heat without the use of moving parts.

They abandoned integrating it into their catds because of cost issues but original details (dating back to early 2005) are published here:

http://www.dreamstation.cc/news/video_games/id6942

worthless?

worthless without a 'C/w vs passive airflow rate graph. In a typical chassis it might be good for 50W+ , or it might not.

Re MHD: Magnetohydrodynamics?

Yeah, I thought MHD was the science of of using magnetic fields to confine plasmas (not to be confused with MCD, Microsoft Customer Dynamics).

Has the meaning of the term been expanded? Any scientists out there care to chime in?

AIdDutch Auction....... in Customised Fit for Purpose Flavours and Colours

"So are Sun going for the home enthusiast market now?"

Probably ..... although it is still for Servering Data/MetaData to Centres/Distribution Hubs/Intelligent Services albeit from Personalised Computers rather than Corporate FUD Duds.

QuITe why Jonathan Schwartz, as titular CEO, isn't pushing/pimping/pooling ZFS reservations 42 Create AI Shining Light on the Network and ITs InterNetworking Path to AIDominanation and defacto Virtual Rule, must be because he doesn't yet Realise IT/Virtualise IT Visually.

FFS, Jonathan, what's the problem? IT is not as if it is difficult. Strewth, IT is for Sale, ...Buy IT in and make a Fortune on ITs Back. Nobody will take you for a Whore, if you do so, and it will save you looking Slow and Dimm-Witted if you don't.

Shine on you Crazy Diamond, seems appropriate to Register. The East wants to Play Adult Games. ...... http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/09/chinas-cyber-espionage-ambitions.html .... although that could easily be a spoofed site, carefully prepared for the Beta Management of Perception for an Alternate Reality Game 42EdutainURUStyle?

Olympian Games, once more with Feelings, please...... Semantic Content.

Although, of course, once more with Semantic Content and Feelings will be the First Time for Virtual Virgins...... who would be them and not us.

Now that is a Mission Worth Accomplishing, for have you any IDea of ITs Value apart from IT being Priceless, that is?

Suns...

"But my main question is - has anyone seen a Sun system outside a datacentre?"

Actually, I have a sun ultra at home and it makes a nice and quiet file server. The cpu is passively cooled, and the only fan I've seen inside is on the psu.

What's new?

This sounds just like the coolant system for the fast reactor at Dounreay...

No Fans

My heatsink has no fan! mind you it is huge, and has its own weather system (well ok it just causes a convection current) check it out http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=160&code=021

BTW standard watercooler setups do use fans! normally to blow air through the radiators.

I did note there was no scale on the heatsink diagram, but my guess is that it effectivly has a very high thermal conductivity so gets more heat away from the cores quicker, ie better than heat pipes, as for getting the heat out of the box my money is still on fans. unless it can generate enough pressure to act as an electrostatic pump in a watercooler type setup, but im sure the fluid price would be prohibitive. However,if it uses power it will generate its own heat surely? so we'll just have to wait and see. Aterall there is no requirement for an idea to be good in order to patent it!

Re: The Secret purpouse of Heatsink

Zalman make (or have made) a case where all the heatsinks (processor, graphics, chipset) and linked by heatpipes to the case itself so everything is totally passive. It isn't cheap, and it is hugely fiddly getting everything to link up just so.

It would be more useful to fit dust filters over intakes, but then you'd have to rely on users changing the filters when they clogged up, and I don't think a useful percentage of people would do that either.

Ultimately, computers are a consumable.

Einstein and Szilard got their first

This sounds the same as the refrigeration pump invented by Einstein and Szilard in the 20s for safer fridges, which then got used by Szilard in the first nuclear reactors. I suppose if they can isolate the magnetic field so it causes no problems they would be good, if a little large, but I wouldn't have thought they could patent the idea.

Scale?

Perhaps this is a design to move heat betwean stacked cores? or otherwise within a cpu package, and not actually a heat sink??? might be useful then.

AManFromMars all over this topic :)

No offence but i had to stop reading ur posts they gave me a sore head :s

More than just A.N.Other IT magazine ....... when HyperRadioProActive

"No offence but i had to stop reading ur posts they gave me a sore head :s"

Exercising your brain can do that, Anonymous Coward. It's nothing to worry about. You are allowed to think for yourself, you know, for if you don't you just end up doing what someone else wants, without thinking that you're probably being paid not to think too deeply about everything ....... as a drone/worker in the Money Honey Pot.

However, the difficulty does surface whenever the Reality Environment is Virtualised.... and I take it that you realise that is the next Stage of Human Evolution and dDevelopment .... because then IT and Media together, in AIBinary Union, become Code Masters of both Domains, with Virtual Excellence [which you will have to admit must be a recent addition to the IntelAIgents Portfolio] leading Real XXXXPerience because such Code works best, given the light of the Sun, which is the Paradigm Change Realised by Virtualisation, banging nails into the coffin of National Security/Secret Society secrets abused.

Get used to IT as IT heralds AIBrighter Future which does not hide ITs Agenda.

Something for Steve Jobs, do you think, or a host of Jobs for Steve or something to Register here for ITs Seeds to FlowurPower2?