The Register® — Biting the hand that feeds IT

Smiley celebrates 25th birthday

Gareth Irwin

The art of tossing 

The man has got it up to ten minutes, he deserves respect

Les Matthew

Re: The art of tossing 

You can always rely on Lester to pull it off.

Anonymous Coward

A nice misquote 

"I tossed off in 10 minutes to something that has spread all around the world." Well at least this is better than something spreading around the world as a result of him tossing off.

Neil Jones

Special Edition 

Can I suggest we mark this anniversary and this memorable quote with a brand new smiley?

:-)om3

Anonymous Coward

Heard a radio interview ... 

... where the interviewer asked if Mr Fahlman'd have :-( on his gravestone. I think

X-P would be better ...

Ian O'Friel

party 

Shouldn't the Smiley have a party hat on ?

<:-)

Jane

Smileys are much older than that 

My mother was a typist in the 1930-40s. She remembers using them in the office then - not in official correspondence, though.

Steven Davison

Party 

*<(8o)

every Party needs a clown...

Anonymous Coward

It wouldnt be a party 

without the ladies

:-)8<=

Law

RE: It wouldnt be a party 

wow - you rock!!

That is now officially my favorite smilie EVERY!! ;)

Sceptical Bastard

An elderly IT pedant protests... 

Quote: "Carnegie Mellon University professor Scott E. Fahlman... at 11:44 am on 19 September 1982...made the fateful suggestion... (of a) character sequence for joke markers."

He might have sent the claimed email at that precise time. But he wasn't the first with the electronic smiley (let alone the mechanical typist's smiley).

In April 1979 - over three years earlier - a guy named MacKenzie posted an email to MsgGroup (the unofficial community on ARPAnet which was instrumental in formulating email standards and protocols and whose most prominent member was Dave Crocker) posted a suggestion that by playing with punctuation in email one could more easily convey subtleties such as sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek content.

MacKenzie proposed using a hyphen and parenthesis thus -) He also freely acknowledged that he'd cribbed the idea from an article in Reader's Digest.

Of course, quite a few of the MsgGroup's members were at Carnegie-Mellon. So it is, perhaps, surprising that Scott Fahlman seems to have missed MacKenzie's contribution and the minor flame war it precipitated.

I vaguely remember to seeing quoted a passing reference to 'extended punctuation sets' in a RFC. Buggered if I can remember where or when - anyone who can be arsed could search it out here:

http://rfc.net/rfc-index.html

And lest younger Vultures think I am an old fart, I can still toss off in under ten minutes ;)

Jamie Davis

Best geek headstone... 

I saw was plain granite with "</life>" written on it

Ian Ferguson

Re: Older 

Yes, the smiley is much older than computers, I've seen pages of what is essentially ASCII art but created with a typewriter (including cunning use of the backspace and halfspace to put multiple characters in the same area). I'm pretty sure it included smileys as we know them.

They won't known as smileys, of course - but am I right in thinking that 'smiley' is a trademarked name for the trademarked yellow smiley face? Which is why commercial chat applications offer 'emoticons' and other such pseudonyms.