I've way too much time on my hands. I listened to the whole thing. I began lurking around various Open Source sites in 1998 and continue to lurk to this day. I thought a subtext of the conversation was much more interesting than the rehashing of the ethics and morals of Open Source versus closed source. It was interesting to hear the business savy of the participants. The licensing issues are perpetually being rehashed in one forum or another and the maneuverings of predatory companies like Microsoft and Google are well documented, but it's good to see Open Source people are quickly and efficiently 'groking' the workings of the business world. Faster nervous systems eat slower nervous systems and the fewer barriers to information transfer that underlies FOSS stuff will produce both the products and the people necessary to make it work.