Great to see El Reg being quoted as a reliable source of information, rather than those unreliable mainstream media sites.

Do you get any royalties from the successful 419ers? Maybe you should look into that...

How on Earth do they expect to be taken seriously with English like that?

A very lame attempt. If anyone falls for that I'll eat my hat.

This morning I got a very similar email from "Kofi Anan" saying that after several meetings with the UNITED NATIONS (their capitals), everyone who has ever been scammed is getting $100,000.

To claim, just send all of your personal details to "zenith bank of Nigeria"

I'm surprised that the address given wasn't:

419 gullible way

Now I just need to work out... how they're gonna fund this, how they knew that I had been scammed, and why-oh-why they were sending from a yahoo account... if they have millions of dollars to just hand out, can't they afford their own domain?

Hmmm

Surely these guys make enough money from their scams that they could afford to pay someone to write proper English?

...amazed that these people do not at least try to employ somebody with at least a reasonable grasp of the english language. Its easier to read comments from amanfrommars than to try to work out the grammer in these things...

And even scarier, people fall for these mails....

We're all doomed.

How about putting a warning header with a link to this article on the pages they mention in the email?

That way, any potential hapless victims may possibly be educated rather than falling for another scam. I'm guessing the 419'ers are hoping previous scamees are suckers and most likely to fall for it again!

The pippel hu fall 4 dis pobabli cant tell the difrece.

If only they'd get the language right they might stand a chance of hooking a few fish but . . .

"While many are still awaiting trail while we still fetch for others who feel they are wise and hope that you will be our friend by giving us more information as per clue in apprehending them."

it looks like they are using the original 419 writer.

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I've still got my 419 t-shirt and still some folks don't understand and say it's racist. Ah well, I expect them to pay close attention to an e-mail from a 'distant relative' or 'UK Lottery' and go for the money.

This is the first instance of this scam (that I have seen) which would benefit from good english. I always assumed they used bad english to play on the "ahh, poor unfortunate foreigner" aspect. In this case, there is no excuse.

As any fool knows, hotmail has been part of Microsoft for a good few years, so that's why it's such a great choice in this case.

... It's the addresses that kill me.

:-)

not grammer!!

Disgruntled english-speaking 419er

I knew you guys would make it big some day. My best wishes and congratulations for your....er.. excellent journalism..

It's a shame when a scammer does not even do their homework... Espeically when it comes down to the difference of formats used in various countries...

Since when had the UK used the American address format?

And when did Monkeysoft open an office in London, when they have a huge place in Reading...

And they didn't even use the complete ZIP-code...

Tsk! I will have to huff about this all day.

Yeah, this means some 419ers read this site: any of you out there reading now, please submit your comments (or are they already, and these all moderated away?).

I've been to Microsoft offices in Soho, maybe they've moved, according to this

page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/about/map-london.mspx they're now in Victoria Street.

Holy mother of God - wall of text.com!

Overlooking the quality of English, the hotmail address etc the bleeding size of the email would stop most ppl reading it. Marcel Proust wrote more concisely...

... do have an office in London - in Victoria, actually. It used to be in Soho, but they moved. The MSN and Xbox teams work there.

"As any fool knows, hotmail has been part of Microsoft for a good few years, so that's why it's such a great choice in this case."

Yes... but do you really think Microsoft employees are going to use a hotmail address for their business emails? No.

Given how easy it is to supply a different 'From:' header in an email and make it appear as though it is from an address that it isn't, I'm surprised they dont. It amazes me how stupid some of these people are.

I shall feed you with further modalities...

brilliant, these emails are quite simply hilarious...

So, if you were daft enough to get scammed in the first place, AND daft enough to fall for this scam you DESERVE to be scammed!

Might as well just get your salary paid to some bloke in Nigeria and cut out the middlemen.

Well, I was thinking of upgrading from 4.1.3_U1 to help out as none of these people have come forward, but I can only find the 4.1.4 disks: anyone got a spare set of 4.1.9?

... is your bonk acoont number and sort code, and I will transfer the munies into your account. You will get back $100,000 ugandan dollars which the computa says is £18.73

What I don't understand, is if this scam is pandering to those already victimized, what makes the fools perpetuating it think that there's any money left to be had? And of course the grammar is poor, the Hotmail addy is a giveaway. I only hope the idiot(s) that created this scam are reading these comments. I hope whatever village these imbeciles live in still has public floggings for 2-bit criminals like these.

PROOF IT TO US THAT YOU WERE SCAMMED AND RECEIVE COMPENSATION. FROM THE OFFICE OF THE JOINT VENTURE PROJECT ON CYBERCRIMES, FINANCIAL CRIMES COMMISSION (FCC), UNTIED NATIONS AND MICROSOFT CO. INTERNATIONAL.

....

I'm sorta liking the idea of an "untied nations" - a society for recovering gimps perhaps?

Hello,

I am being a Nigerian victim of moderation from by El Reg. This has caused much me distress and frustration over the period of time. Please help my in my cause by donating $3500 USD as quickly as possible. God bless.

Yours,

Darwin Winklesworth

"...homeless and others living by the grace of God." should also had knocked over some warning bells in peoples minds apart from about EVERYTHING else? Since when has M$ quoted other beeings than Bill Gates :P

Ahhmen . . .

Your funds are now in a safekeeping account as requested. There is, however, an administrative fee needed to ensure you will be able to access this. Details will be available shortly.

... and

@Christopher Emerson

Of course I expect M$ employees to use hotmail addresses when they are perpetrating 419 scams - why not?

Obviously they don't fake the 'From:' header because they want to receive the reply - Doh!

Oh god LOL.

There should be some sort of awards for these emails!!!

And just what does it take to be acknowleged as a victim of Microsoft?

Did you need to have shares in digital research?

Do you need to have documentary evidence that you tried using Word?

typical mail in rebate scheme!

I WILL GLADLY PAY YOU $1000,000 USD TOMORROW FOR A HAMBURGER TODAY.

KING OF THE UNTIED NATIONS AND OUT-LYING TERRORSTORIES, BY THE GREYS OF GID,

HIS ROYAL MAJESTY WIMPY THE FIRST

"And just what does it take to be acknowleged as a victim of Microsoft?"

A valid license and/or proof of purchase for Vista ought to do the job ...

"If anyone falls for that I'll eat my hat."

I hope you've got a tasty hat; it is impossible to underestimate the intellectual prowess of greedy people.

Fool me twice, shame on me, or so it seems....

One of the more impressive things about Nigerian scammers is that many of them have moved from sending the emails to offering get rich quick schemes to their own countrymen, so there are people sitting in cybercafes in Lagos thinking that their poorly written capitalised missives are going to recoup the thousand dollars that they paid to the well dressed gentleman in the temporary office in... the... business centre... wait a minute...

There is still some creativity there though - the one from the Nigerian Space Authority offering a share of the salary of the Nigerian astronaut stuck on the ISS is still my favourite.

I almost fell out of my chair with that? Especially when a quick glance read it as Slash-Snot.....

I was scammed back two years ago for $30k. Where do I collect? I never got this email? Can I just email that address to start the process?

"slashnot"? "FCC"? These are better than BOFH some days! And yes, someone, somewhere will fall for this.......sadly.

Another refreshing friday read...

Greed and gullibility. If not via advance fee "for administration", or "just confirm your bank details, sort code and pin, and we will transfer the funds directly", the 419ers will probably harvest a few more e-mail addresses to sell onto their mates from chancers who were never scammed but would like a stab at 100,000.

Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!!

What's scarier then there Grammer, is there grasp of Geography.

I mean since when was 98052 (Redmond Washington The U.S.A), to be found in little old Blighty-land (much less so in Nodnol.... Um sorry London) LULz!!

These guys read El Reg... you have just pointed out all of their mistakes.

Now next time they will get it right. They will be UNTIED

The mangled spelling in that letter enraged the membership of MDA -- Mothers Against Dyslexia.

Martin

who needs a measly US$100,000.00? I already own half of Central Africa, a diamond mine, a mountain of uranium, and £300 billion in cash and state bonds. Soon I will return to Umboto Gorge to liberate the oppressed Watutsi people!

That is, when i can scrape up the plane fare because my bank account is now mysteriously empty. Must be the Mrs, because I can't imagine that the Secretary of the former President-for-Life of Rumbabwe, Sweetums Abongo, would have misused the bank details that I sent her over Hotmail.

To ban Nigeria from internet access - yes, I know not all scammers are in Nigeria. but it'll give my spam software a break.

Or let ISP's filter out the I.P's, like Sorbs does with mail-servers.

Or let the governments get off their fat asses and start taking this shizzle seriously.......

Perhaps our friendly Reg should amend that article to direct that it has been quoted in a scam mail?

Just doing their bit all-in-all I doubt that we'd want to see anyone scamed.

Scammers can't recognise humour?

As sam bo pointed out above, it is not a good idea to correct 419ers mistakes or educate them in English. Their English is just fine. Typing with caps lock on commands attention. Getting the odd address in the wrong format is neither here nor there. When they offer huge sums of money from throwaway email addresses, it is just to protect their identity, most of us do the same thing. Give these lads a chance. Give them all the rope they need and they will use it wisely :-)

The main reason that Nigerian scammers target the western world, and not their neighbours, is simple because the only people left in Nigeria are the scammers. The rest of the population appear to have migrated to 'New Nigera' (known to the locals as South-East London).

No, not ordinary people.

Just the stupid/greedy ones.