IKEA? #
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 21:35 GMT
I thought Ingvar Kamprad, Ikea founder overtook Gates at some point?
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 21:35 GMT
I thought Ingvar Kamprad, Ikea founder overtook Gates at some point?
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 21:59 GMT
$13 is not 8% of the usa economy. More like $1 trillion. Otherwise you are suggesting the usa economy is $100 trillion. Does this really seem likely?
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 22:12 GMT
I fail to see how 17 times ~$60bn is $13tn. I think that $13tn is the GDP of the US, while Bill would have to increase his net worth to $1.04tn, which is about 17 times his current worth.
Either way, It would suck to be Gates... Can you imagine /only/ having $60bn to your name? Then again, if I had that much I would be able to buy that new laptop I've been drooling over...
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 22:12 GMT
Had Snr Obredor won the presidency, Snr Slim would be substantially poorer. Obredor's proposal was for a tax of as much at 75% at the highest level, with "wealth" taxes to boot. And he would have taxed the snot out of large corporations.
Posted Tuesday 3rd July 2007 22:36 GMT
"I thought Ingvar Kamprad, Ikea founder overtook Gates at some point?"
The year before last, I think - I seem to recall that it was largely due to the dollar/krone exchange rate at the time, meaning that Kamprad's net worth was higher than that of Chairman Bill for a while.
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 07:24 GMT
Had Sr. Obrador (Andres Manuel, not Carlos, btw) we would ALL be substantially poorer down here, cf. Argentina, Venezuela, other Latin American countries who have succumbed to our particular brand of political lunacy. We were immensely lucky in the end, and 250K people separated us from Chavismo in the better case, Yugoslavia in the more extreme one. I much prefer reading about Mr. Slim, whose customer I have happily remained (Good broadband is devilishly hard to get in Mexico City if you don't choose Telmex) than having to read about Mr. Obrador while in exile from his yellow hordes. If a MExican is the world's richest man, more power to him. May the rest of us soon find the way he has found.
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 10:04 GMT
"Had Snr Obredor won the presidency, Snr Slim would be substantially poorer. Obredor's proposal was for a tax of as much at 75% at the highest level, with "wealth" taxes to boot. And he would have taxed the snot out of large corporations."
And that right there is why he didn't win. You can't threaten to tax corporations and still get elected. See also Murdoch, R.
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 10:05 GMT
"$13 is not 8% of the usa economy. More like $1 trillion. Otherwise you are suggesting the usa economy is $100 trillion. Does this really seem likely?"
This could be the article says Mexico's economy, not the USA economy :) They are distinct countries, even if the some of the populus of one would like it to be otherwise.
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 10:05 GMT
And here's me believing the PR that Gates giving it all away! FFS his worth has gone up by 10 billion this year!
Can anyone explain this?
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 12:35 GMT
Ingvar Kamprad did over take for a brief moment or so the rumor went; however most of the money made by IKEA is put into a tax free ‘charitable’ fund (much larger than even the gates' foundation). The Ikea 'family' over see this fund but I think no one person can claim it as his or her own personal wealth.
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 13:32 GMT
"FFS his worth has gone up by 10 billion this year!
Can anyone explain this?"
Have you seen the price of M$ software lately?
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 14:35 GMT
Using the CIA World Factbook:
USA GDP is $13.13Tn (2006 est)
8% of which would be $1.05Tn
Given Billy boy's current 0.06)Tn ~17 times
So the text "he'd have to increase his wealth by 17times to £13t..." had the multiplier correct, but the result wrong
"...17 times to $1.03t..." would be accurate on both counts
Mexico GDP is$1.149Tn (2006 estimate, purchasing power parity)
8% of which is $0.092Tn (i.e. $92 Billion), this is a long way over El Senor's $68Bn
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 17:25 GMT
Of course ... Slim has the local telecom market (Telmex), 80+% of the mobile market (Telcel) and the America Movil conglomerate has taken over many mobile operators in Latin America. I remember he even took over one of the Baby Bells (Bellsouth/Telmex), CompUSA, Prodigy (which he used to re-brand the ISP service in Mexico) and some other stuff. As much as I despise the Telmex monopoly, it is impressive to see a Mexican entrepreneur reaching the #1.
As for somebody mentioning "we'd all be poorer with Obrador as president" ... I'd like to see him tell that to the public school teachers that have recently got their retirement plan axed. Or remember the corn/tortilla price spike. Or the military police state in effect in 3 states because of "war on drugs". It looks like we got our own version of "Dubya" over here...
And as an interesting side note, Slim was an Obrador supporter. I doubt he would've done so if all that "tax corps to hell" were true. What he would have done was remove the "tax evasion paradise" large corporations have over here, and thats what the corporations didn't want.
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 05:26 GMT
"$13 is not 8% of the usa economy"
Dunno, sounds about right to me. Makes the whole of the US worth around $162.50. Tell you what, I'll give you a hundred quid for it, used tenners, and you get to keep the chimp. Can't say fairer than that.
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